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I tried, but even I have my limits. I have banned Mr. Virtuani for a one-month period.

Bill Jurens [moderator].

Recent postings by Mr. Virtuani have recently consisted primarily of repeated and somewhat lengthy and unpleasant personal attacks on myself, as moderator, and Mr. Rico, as website host. My sense of this is that most participants would rather avoid this sort of commentary, but find it difficult to b...

Recent commentary while somewhat heated, remains acceptable. It is perhaps worth noting that in most countries -- though certainly not all -- it is impossible to defame or insult the dead, so at least in most of the situations we are encountering here, defamation, etc. would probably not represent a...

The inclusion of aphorisms in languages other than English can be misleading and confusing to others not fluent in the language, and should be avoided. As mentioned in a previously edited post, I would suggest that further commentaries in foreign languages -- especially critical commentary -- be acc...

Mr. Virtuani:

Please read some of the previous posts. If you do so, you will note that it was primarily Wadinga's commentary that was deleted/modifed, not your own, and that he was the one who was cautioned, not yourself.

Bill Jurens.

I am disappointed to see the continuation of a slide towards excessive editorialization and personal criticism of other participants, which in this case required that a caution be issued. If commentary is considered offensive, rather than attempt to retaliate immediately and directly -- which tends ...

The discussion is interesting, but we appear to be once again slipping into excessively personal commentary.

Let's all try to turn down the personal heat a little.

Bill Jurens

******* [As moderator] Insofar as this represents a potentially fairly volatile topic, I would ask that contributors exercise extraordinary restraint in replying to others. I will make one final request that the insertion of small snippets of text be avoided where possible. In the most recent instan...

This topic is a legitimate one for discussion, but one likely prone to rather argumentative and offensive commentary. I would caution all participants to attempt to maintain a reasonable and respectful tone in further submissions. If this gets out-of-hand, and if cautions are ignored, the thread wil...

Readers will note that I have deleted in their entirety a number of previous posts which essentially had nothing to do with the topic -- "bismarck-after torpedo hit" at all. Although some useful and interesting commentary was lost in the process, sorting the wheat from the chaff would have been too ...

I would suggest that at this point it would be most productive to simply restrict our efforts and discussions to simple data collection. First, let's simply try to assemble the best possible data base. Analysis of 'whys and wherefores' -- along with associated editorial commentary -- can(and should)...

Under-bottom torpedo hits, if they can be arranged (now fairly easy, in the 1940's very difficult) are indeed, potentially lethal regardless of side protection. Bismarck's side protection system was certainly not inept in concept, but it certainly wasn't perfect either. The biggest problem lie in th...

So far as diameters are concerned, the builder's drawings scale to a diameter of about 450 mm around the area where the paravane tube exits at the forefoot.

Bill Jurens

My thanks to those that have taken the time to send private messages regarding my recent actions on the forum. These comments are most useful to me in helping to define and control paths we may be taking in the future. Further, insofar as private comments are not presented in the form of public comm...

I have, with some reluctance, let Mr. Virtuani's commentary stand. Insofar as he has now been banned from the forum and cannot reply, I think it certainly inappropriate for me, and probably inappropriate for others, to reply and convert (one might say hijack) this "New Moderator" thread into a "Denm...