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by Brett
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:41 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

I suspect that Bismarck might have been better off if the 5.9" secondary had been designed with,say a 45 to 60 deg elevation and fuze setting machines, and then controlled directly by the AA FC system and the weight allocated to the 4.1" guns used for more CIWS guns. Or alternatively use ...
by Brett
Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:25 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Shell hits
Replies: 36
Views: 8419

Re: Shell hits

Hi Byron Thanks for your detailed reply and in the majority I agree. The SEYDLITZ performance was quite exceptional when compared to what was thrown against her. The Blucher (please forgive the spelling) by staying afloat caused valuable shells to be directed to her rather than her fleeing companion...
by Brett
Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:34 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Shell hits
Replies: 36
Views: 8419

Re: Shell hits

Yes the emprical evidence is scant yet huge amounts of money were spent designning ships, armour and shells. I am curious what the design issues a team would have faced and what knowledge that could have brought to the table to deal with this. A sunk ship until recently meant dead men tell no tales ...
by Brett
Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:00 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns
Replies: 22
Views: 14007

Re: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns

Sort of confirms the confusion on the term. And as mentioned the current 105mm is a very powerful piece and quite light compared to its forefathers. To me a howziter is weapon with various zone charges designed to shoot in the upper registers but accept that is not a technical definition in many boo...
by Brett
Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:53 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Shell hits
Replies: 36
Views: 8419

Re: Shell hits

Hi Confirming that I consider an effective hit one that disables a vessel from fighting back and by my reading it took very few major shell hits to do that. I believe that the Tiger in WW1 at one battle fired over two hundred shells and scored one hit so a lot of shells were launched with no hits an...
by Brett
Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:19 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns
Replies: 22
Views: 14007

Re: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns

Hi Like all terms there is the usual muck up and non standardisation and also I can be wrong :shock: It is my understanding that a howitzer is a gun that uses multiple charges to achieve a variety of shell decent angles while a gun uses a fixed charged (either combined with the projectile, sperate c...
by Brett
Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:40 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Shell hits
Replies: 36
Views: 8419

Shell hits

Hi In WW1 and WW2 it appears from my reading that it took very few shell hits to disable or destroy a vessel. This combined with comparity few gun naval engagements means a lot of discussions on effective shell and armour is based on limited emperical evidence. Does anyone know if something similar ...
by Brett
Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:16 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns
Replies: 22
Views: 14007

Re: AT guns vs. Artillery guns vs. Naval guns

Hi AT guns use high MV for both penetration and flat shooting trajectory that compensates for mis judging range and also reduces the lead need to hit a moving target. The idea it to penetrate side armour. Also it helps with 1930' technology to over match the armour, which means using a shell with a ...
by Brett
Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:51 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

Hi lwd Yes, the more I read and understand the more I am accepting that the ideal of just about any weapon system is idea for the country and mission intented. It does not surprise me that secondaries were a mixed bunch of solutions with the Germans going 6" the USA 5" and the British tryi...
by Brett
Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:04 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

Hi Yet again a recurring theme that being seamingly minor events or mistakes causing critical ships or components not to be available when required. In recent reading it is almost unbelievable the number of ships that ran aground and were not available at critical times. Obviously wartime navigation...
by Brett
Mon May 31, 2010 5:47 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

Hi Bgile I have noticed a couple of post WW2 era designs with the Tiger 6" twin gun mount being the stand out but much later in the time line. While a twin load system is sexy enough to be considered a good thing by designers (handy for ground attack aircraft) however I would imagine in most en...
by Brett
Mon May 31, 2010 4:04 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

HI I have been surfing the web and not much on 6" guns in AA role and their actual effectiveness in battle. As some may of gathered I have an interest in what could have been had foresight along with 1930's technology being incorporated in major warships. I am certain that even had the Germans ...
by Brett
Sat May 29, 2010 1:28 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?
Replies: 167
Views: 109891

Re: What was the most effective naval anti-aircraft gun of WW2?

Though far from ideal as a AA weapon the 6" gun was standard across many countries for light and not so light cruisers. How did it fair in battle on those ships against aircraft? Yes the German ones were SP so more interested the DP versions. Also what is the heaviest shell that was suitable. I...
by Brett
Fri May 28, 2010 12:19 am
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Ideal battleship design
Replies: 162
Views: 84116

Re: Ideal battleship design

Weight and designing a ship has many factors not at least ensuring each frame is self supporting to avoid uneven loading and this is something that I do not have a clue so can get things wrong. I believe such issues compromised the upgrading of the Hood's secondary gun. Basically the Bismark carried...
by Brett
Thu May 27, 2010 2:50 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Ideal battleship design
Replies: 162
Views: 84116

Re: Ideal battleship design

Hi All I do find it rather shallow comparing design from say 1933 that appeared on the seas in 1939-40 to designs that first sailed in 1944 Hi. My impression is that the 1934 designed Bismarck would destroy the 1940 designed Vanguard most of the time, from a pure technological perspective. And the ...