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by Byron Angel
Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:42 pm
Forum: Books and Reference
Topic: Battleship Bismarck: A Design and Operational History
Replies: 5
Views: 1044

Re: Battleship Bismarck: A Design and Operational History

The clinical definition is “digital dyslexia” ... 😋

Byron
by Byron Angel
Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:43 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Read the entire JSTor article referenced, Sean, and do the math for yourself - it was a “loan” in name only: two million pounds loaned and three million pounds in direct subsidy was an unprecedented deal implemented at a time when the naval budget was approaching a crisis level. I hardly imagine thi...
by Byron Angel
Fri Feb 05, 2021 2:30 am
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

A brief of the details of the Cunard subsidy program of 1902, passed under the Balfour government can be found by searching "British government subsidies to Cunard Line 1902 (The paper is freely D/L from JStor). In short - The British government loaned Cunard approximately two million pounds sterlin...
by Byron Angel
Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Been ill. The logic underlying the "dreadnought armoured cruiser" as a solution to the German high-speed transatlantic raid threat was that the government was spending stupendous amounts in subsidy payments to the commercial owners of the huge new British transatlantic liners in order to have use of...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:28 am
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

>>>>> Please note - “Battlecruiser Invincible: The History of the First Battlecruiser, 1909-1916”, V E Tarrant (page 15). “British Battleships of World War One”, R A Burt (page 39). If I have counted correctly, Tarrant and Burt now make six sources referring specifically to the threat to imperial co...
by Byron Angel
Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:23 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Wadinga wrote - I very much appreciate any influence you may have had in making Mr Seligmann's (Matthew's) paper available. It is a fascinating read and it is interesting to see that the controversy about the origin of the battlecruiser concept is only a fraction of a much bigger dispute between him...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:26 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Hi Byron, Speaking of Beelzebub and his location amongst the details, I unaccountably overlooked the most pithy and direct dismissal of the "AMC assertion" in Roberts' book. In the headpiece to his "Origins" chapter he actually quotes the Bacon assertion but continues beyond "fight any cruiser aflo...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:39 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Sean,
Matthew has been kind enough to provide open access to his article. You may D/L it here -
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 15.1034576

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by Byron Angel
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:46 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

These record runs were achieved on normal passages. The Blue Riband record speeds mentioned were not very far off at all from typical passage times, just the best to date. Go here for a good resource - https://www.tradeshouselibrary.org/uploads/4/7/7/2/47723681/trans-atlantic_passenger_ships__past_a...
by Byron Angel
Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Sean, While it is true that both the German liners and their erstwhile pursuers were powered by reciprocating engines, Seligmann goes on explain the factors that made the liners decisively superior in terms of overall practical sea speed - “The relative excess of speed of the German vessels compared...
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:40 pm
Forum: Books and Reference
Topic: Best Books on Jutland?
Replies: 11
Views: 1083

Re: Best Books on Jutland?

Despite his rather superficial and inaccurate (see chapter VIII, Frost) review, it appears that Mr Prescott nevertheless gave Frost's work four stars. The nub of the problem here is the assumption that Frost's criticisms must unquestionably derive from simple anglophobia. I very much doubt that to h...
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Sean,
I have all the references you have mentioned. Contact Professor Seligmann (he lists his Brunel email on-line); ask if he would be kind enough to email you a PDF of his afore-mentioned essay.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Sean, The following passages are extracted from "The Life of Lord Fisher of Kilverstone, Admiral of the Fleet", written by his personal friend, professional colleague and charter member of the "Fish Pond" advisory committee, Admiral Sir Roger H. Bacon. Volume 1, page 255 - " The Invincible had a tot...
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Re HMS Kent, the best substantiated speed I can find for her at the Falklands was 22 knots.
I am most anxiously looking forward to the publication of Mark Bailey's volume on Coronel and the Falklands.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:14 pm
Forum: The Dreadnought Era (1906-1921)
Topic: Books on British Battlecruisers?
Replies: 59
Views: 3426

Re: Books on British Battlecruisers?

Hi Sean, Here is an excerpt regarding the cruise of Kronprinz Wilhelm from the Seligmann essay - "Such certainly proved to be the case with regard to the Kronprinz Wilhelm. When the First World War began in August 1914, the ship was in New York harbour. Putting to sea on the evening of 3 August, the...