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by Byron Angel
Sat May 19, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hmmm ..... so much for that "agree to disagree" idea. I'll check back in a year or so to see how everyone is doing.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Fri May 18, 2018 5:44 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics
Replies: 72
Views: 6384

Re: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics

Historical experience has shown that, short of inducing a catastrophic ammunition explosion, gunfire alone is unlikely to physically sink a battleship.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Wed May 16, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics
Replies: 72
Views: 6384

Re: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics

It would be well worth consulting the action reports of Ellis and Wake-Walker regarding their experiences in tracking Bismarck and Prinz Eugen both before and following the battle.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Tue May 15, 2018 10:07 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Dunmunro, Hello Byron, are you aware that when quizzing about citations for the Court Martial story, Roskill credits Kennedy 1974 instead of the letter from Tovey (and all those discussions) he has had in his own possession since 1961? In rugby football this is called an "offload" as you get ...
by Byron Angel
Tue May 15, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Byron, Q.E.D. Mr.Dunmunro has lost another opportunity (given by you) to shut up, avoiding further making a fool of himself. Deniers will never accept to agree to disagree..... they are just hooligans: they cannot accept what was written by Tovey and by Roskill..... Now it's the official histori...
by Byron Angel
Mon May 14, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Some thoughts respectfully submitted for consideration - 1 - The breakdown of civility and collegiality displayed in this thread is quite dismaying. In cases where two strongly held points of view find themselves opposed to one another, a simple agreement to disagree would seem to be sufficient. 2 -...
by Byron Angel
Mon May 07, 2018 3:17 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics
Replies: 72
Views: 6384

Re: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics

Wadinga wrote - "I think Tovey's "Head On" attack dogma was considered too much like voluntarily having your T crossed for most people, and Bellairs thought putting this in front of Pound was a way of getting a discussion going, without himself appearing to criticize C in C Home Fleet. As I said in ...
by Byron Angel
Sat May 05, 2018 3:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Byron Angel wrote: "I must admit that I find Graham Rhys Jones' chapter heading, "The Search for Lessons - and Scapegoats", rather thought provoking." Hi Byron, I can't agree more. The whole book is interesting, but the pages posted by Antonio show that he perfectly understood the "regrettable afte...
by Byron Angel
Sat May 05, 2018 2:33 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Crossing the T
Replies: 10
Views: 2260

Re: Crossing the T

Jutland: http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/trafalgar-in-reverse-battle-of-jutland-10.jpg Assuming that the Jutland diagram is approximately correct in terms of distances. note that most of the GF is engaging the head of Scheer's line at a range of about 10,000 yards; meanwhile two...
by Byron Angel
Fri May 04, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

I must admit that I find Graham Rhys Jones' chapter heading, "The Search for Lessons - and Scapegoats", rather thought provoking.

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by Byron Angel
Thu May 03, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Just curious about the large amount of surviving correspondence and archival documentation that relates to this court martial matter. If an elaborate political cover-up of a threatened court martial was in play, would such material not have been destroyed or suppressed? The UK (IIRC) still has a 100...
by Byron Angel
Tue May 01, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: WW1 HMS Inflexible vs WW2 KMS Prinz Eugen
Replies: 13
Views: 2092

Re: WW1 HMS Inflexible vs WW2 KMS Prinz Eugen

If we are discussing Inflexible in her Jutland incarnation, her director gear had so recently been installed, and was so strange and alien to the FC party that would have been tasked to employ it, that her gunnery officer opted to dispense with it and continue with the existing method of fire contro...
by Byron Angel
Tue May 01, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Crossing the T
Replies: 10
Views: 2260

Re: Crossing the T

While "Crossing the T" could confer a technical advantage in the course of a one on one engagement , any such benefit would be very transitory in nature ... perhaps a minute or so before the "victim" would turn sufficiently to open her own A Arcs. "Crossing the T" was a much more advantageous tactic...
by Byron Angel
Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:09 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1933
Views: 55884

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

I have been playing the role of silent lurker for some time. 3+ years and counting with respect to this particular thread ..... just unbelievable. Speaking strictly for myself, I consider the argument about a court martial cover-up to remain unproven. I do not discount the possibility that a threat/...
by Byron Angel
Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:49 am
Forum: Military History and Technology
Topic: German battleship torpedoed by Italian sub
Replies: 6
Views: 2693

Re: German battleship torpedoed by Italian sub

Considering the successes delivered by Rizzo in WW1 and by those intrepid Italian frogmen in Alexandria harbor in WW2, it is indeed interesting to ponder the return on investment enjoyed by the Regia Marina with respect to the money spent upon those MTBs and "Chariots" compared to the huge sums spen...