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by Byron Angel
Sat May 13, 2017 7:41 pm
Forum: World War II
Topic: Battle of the Bulge
Replies: 20
Views: 1949

Re: Battle of the Bulge

Fair comment, RF. I did not think so far ahead, but your scenario is quite plausible to me and IMO puts quite an interesting spin on the geo-political implications being weighed in the balance of the Battle of the Bulge.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Thu May 11, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: American SH shells - Famed or Folly
Replies: 9
Views: 685

Re: American SH shells - Famed or Folly

The range of the 2700lb projectile when fired from the 16in/45 @ 2300 fps was somewhat over 36,000 yds. The ballistic performance of the high velocity German 38cm/L52 was indeed superior to the 16in/45 (2700 lbs) up to about 32,000 yds (at which point comparisons become more complicated). IMO, the l...
by Byron Angel
Thu May 11, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: American SH shells - Famed or Folly
Replies: 9
Views: 685

Re: American SH shells - Famed or Folly

Thorsten wrote - Kirishima was defeated at comparatively short distance (non deck compromiting), with it's almost "paper thin" side protection for battleships, sheer size of shells dont played any role. Washington moved the MPI back and forth over the ship especially several underwater hit...
by Byron Angel
Thu May 11, 2017 2:29 am
Forum: World War II
Topic: Battle of the Bulge
Replies: 20
Views: 1949

Re: Battle of the Bulge

Another argument in favor of a German counterstroke in the West is that IF it had succeeded in all its operational aims - splitting the front, isolating 21st Army Group, and seizing Antwerp, Allied offensive operations against Germany proper would almost certainly have been brought to a standstill f...
by Byron Angel
Wed May 10, 2017 2:40 pm
Forum: World War II
Topic: Air war Europe- 1944
Replies: 6
Views: 286

Re: Air war Europe- 1944

Hi Dave - I think that one of the most unappreciated factors that emerged in the fighter war over Germany were compressibility and associated aircraft control factors under terminal dive conditions. No other theater of the war really featured combat between ultra-high performance fighter aircraft at...
by Byron Angel
Tue May 09, 2017 9:44 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Alaska Class vs Dunkquerke Class
Replies: 24
Views: 1482

Re: Alaska Class vs Dunkquerke Class

I might be wrong on this, but IIRC BB59's shoot against JB was effectively air spotted indirect fire against an target invisible to BB59 because of smoke screens and smoke from nearby dockyards fires. Dave can probably deal with the following: Given the position of JB in a pierside position, surroun...
by Byron Angel
Tue May 09, 2017 9:35 pm
Forum: World War II
Topic: Air war Europe- 1944
Replies: 6
Views: 286

Re: Air war Europe- 1944

Generally agree, Dave. The only comment I will make is that it was in fact the P47 the did most of the heavy air-to-air combat lifting in the ETO. By the time the P51 reached the ETO in large numbers, the P47 had already effectively crippled the LW over Germany. I cannot recall the exact numbers, bu...
by Byron Angel
Mon May 08, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: American SH shells - Famed or Folly
Replies: 9
Views: 685

Re: American SH shells - Famed or Folly

I do agree that the likelihood of hits at 30k+ yds was perhaps less likely under service conditions than suggested by peace-time practices and projections, but some thoughts for consideration - > Rule of thumb considered that the likelihood of a deck hit versus side hit reached 50/50 at about 15deg ...
by Byron Angel
Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:39 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 425
Views: 9809

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Native German speakers, please feel free to correct me, but "Gegner brennt" by my understanding translates to "Enemy is burning" of "Enemy is afire". It would not suggest that a major explosion has occurred.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:55 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 425
Views: 9809

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Alecs - Bismarck's steady course during the time period in question is meaningless if the target is radically maneuvering, and PoW's high speed 100+ degree turn away under cover of smoke certainly qualifies as such. Getting a correct FC solution on such an evading target is next to impossible (even ...
by Byron Angel
Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 425
Views: 9809

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

> Short of guessed or barrage fire, Bismarck would have required PoW to once again settle upon a steady heading before its FC system could compute a gunnery solution. PoW's smoke certainly did not help matters.

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by Byron Angel
Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:25 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Bismarck and Iowa
Replies: 49
Views: 2481

Re: Bismarck and Iowa

Re comparison of shell effects, it can also be argued that optimizing the number and velocity of projectile fragments may not be as important as ensuring that a projectile whose detonation can produce a sufficient number of effective fragments is physically able reach a critical location within the ...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:54 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck immunity zone
Replies: 31
Views: 1950

Re: Bismarck immunity zone

Keep in mind that the citadel vertical protection scheme of the BISMARCK Class also incorporated a substantial internal glacis behind the belt (110mm Wh @ 22deg from horizontal, according to N Okun) to protect the vitals from low angle fire. Nathan's opinion is that no contemporary AP projectile wa...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:16 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck immunity zone
Replies: 31
Views: 1950

Re: Bismarck immunity zone

Keep in mind that the citadel vertical protection scheme of the BISMARCK Class also incorporated a substantial internal glacis behind the belt (110mm Wh @ 22deg from horizontal, according to N Okun) to protect the vitals from low angle fire. Nathan's opinion is that no contemporary AP projectile was...
by Byron Angel
Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:05 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Denmark Strait hits on HMS PoW
Replies: 99
Views: 2839

Re: Denmark Strait hits on HMS PoW

IIRC, Japanese Tosa experiments regarding underwater projectile travel revealed that the path of conventionally shaped pointed projectiles would gradually curve back toward the surface. This would have been consistent with the observed behavior of heavy delay-fuzed artillery projectiles striking sof...

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