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by wadinga
Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Spot-on observation Byron, no mad rush as the enemy is not manoeuvring or indeed firing back! Of course it was greater output. PoW was firing the equivalent of one broadside/minute which is quite leisurely. As I've pointed out in the past, the RoF is set by the visibility and se...
by wadinga
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow contributors, it has been said I'm waiting for any different reconstuction of the fire action duration (14 mins) or of my assumed ordered shots (108...) just to check that nothing change significantly... What exact value is there in creating another equally imaginary and equally (un)likely sc...
by wadinga
Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:35 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Paul's question about broadsides requires an answer, but I can't locate and supply a succinct reference. It is clear that even gunnery expert Santarini is muddled by what is meant by salvoes in his concluding table 20, where he states PoW fired twice as many per minute as Bismar...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, The Navweaps definitions are suitable: ROF - Rate of Fire. Usually shown in terms of RPM - Rounds per Minute. ROF may be affected both positively and negatively by many different elements, too numerous to list here. ROF figures given on my data pages for manually-operated guns r...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, She fired instead at around the same RoF as PoW (deliverying "only" 93 shells in 14 minutes). This combines is both an unwarranted assumption and an unproved assertion about RoF with actual factual information in the same sentence. Both Langley and Bevir who are contemporary exp...
by wadinga
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Here are two documents recently located at NA, Kew. Both are Crown Copyright. The documents are made available under the Open Government licence. These images were not made by the NA and are not subject to their image reproduction policy. In the first Dudley Pound dated 17th Nov...
by wadinga
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Revered Moderator,

Pray stay your hand. I hope very shortly to have two "truly new and heretofore unseen "documents from the National Archives by Dudley Pound (signature green ink!) and Oliver Bevin Director of Naval Ordnance commenting directly on this subject.

All the best

wadinga
by wadinga
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, It has been said After incautiously trusting the given word of a forum member... so it is accepted that this part giving away useful information that was intended to be withheld along with, apparently, a great deal of other useful information, for commercial reasons presumably, ...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Now we have acceptance: The Barben's workaround was possibly put in place after the jam occurred, to get the turret ready in case to fire again (at slower RoF) until the ring was back in action at 8:25, thus to "carry on" during the retreat, had Lutjens decided to follow PoW to ...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Hello Byron, I agree with all you have said. This is surely not a debating society, where opposing points of view are generated solely for the sake of controversy and equally matched teams of participants are judged on their persuasiveness. We here are interested in real history and uncovering the d...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5461

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Fellow Contributors. What the captain of Cornwall "knew" about Japanese aerial capabilities and the top-level intelligence available to Somerville gleaned from examining the devastating raids by Nagumo's force on Pearl Harbor and Darwin are probably very different things. Captain Abe(?) was apparent...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5461

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Fellow Contributors, It is possible, but from what IIRC at least, at the time of Operation C, Somerville expected to meet 2 enemy fleet carriers with maximum 96 planes on them (48 + 48), with a more probable set-up considered being 40+40. Therefore, his 2 fleet carriers with 83 operational machiens ...
by wadinga
Thu May 30, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Although Alecsandros has attempted to present his own figures in a different form, it is based IMHO on serious misapprehensions. We can not compare that to Prinz Eugen on a per shell basis, because the battleship and cruiser used different shells, in terms of weight, guns, etc. ...
by wadinga
Wed May 29, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Alecsandros (happily still with us) points out: Who looks there finds Prince of Wales effective output of 85% , the same as Prinz Eugen's. So PoW fired only 41 shells to reach the same value of missed shots as it took PG 150 to achieve. If PoW had fired as many as 55 as per the ...
by wadinga
Wed May 29, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 170
Views: 3155

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Returning from the commercial break. Her "effective RoF" was just slightly less than Bismarck's Please let's compare the 55 shells in 9 minutes with the 93 shells in 14 minutes Why bother since it is a specious comparison? Even the dear departed Alecsandros couldn't stomach the ...