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by wadinga
Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 23
Views: 506

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Hello All, returning to the thread subject 4) that British had a way to know in advance about the Italian plans (espionage was suspected, Enigma decoding was not) Alongside Signor Cernuschi's Flights of Fantasy, he does seem to have done some actual historical work of value and his book with co-auth...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 23
Views: 506

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Hello Alberto, Therefore Cernuschi's LOS article, albeit very interesting about Supermarina intercepted messages in Atlantic, must be taken with some suspicion We agree at last! Except I personally consider all Signor Cernuschi's articles should be treated, on principle, with considerable suspicion....
by wadinga
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941
Replies: 8
Views: 242

Re: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941

Hello Jose, The collation of all material in one sequence would be extremely valuable and much appreciated. As became clear recently with a typescript message Antonio supplied, precise source still unclear, some of the material was unfortunately truncated or poorly copied when vessel logs, departmen...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Alberto, Rowell's map shows a near instantaneous turn of 20 degrees at most taking 30 seconds. Have you ever turned 20 degrees in 30 seconds in your naval career? At 28 knots? Here is where you can go to expand your knowledge about "derivazione" in locations where the Littorio class never went...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Alberto, or about the speed loss while turning "softly" 20 or 40 degrees (reading carefully what we have concluded with Byron Turning "softly" is not what is portrayed in Rowell's maps. They are instantaneous angular changes and thus cannot represent the true path of the ship, but are a crude ...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:02 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello All, Once again, because I choose not field an alternate speculative geometry against the parameters suggested by others, I am accused of a solely destructive approach. In the matter of positioning up to 06:00 I am not so combative, if there is not any factor as yet unexposed, this may indeed ...
by wadinga
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941
Replies: 8
Views: 242

Re: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941

Hello Jose, Supplied by Dunmunro- This is extracted from the 1942 edition of Battle Summary 5: Recorded in a footnote 37. “Proceed on assumption enemy turned towards Brest.” Received Norfolk 1045/ 25. This message does not apparently appear in the Admiralty Diary, (can any record be found?) but sugg...
by wadinga
Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941
Replies: 8
Views: 242

Re: Admiralty War Diary, 22-28 May 1941

Hello Jose, From my information in the "1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics" thread, http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8249&start=60 which covers some of these signals: Tovey was sent "Take all forces of Home Fleet, also Rodney and Ramillies under your orders." by Captain...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Gentlemen, Calm down...……... please. I know you are impatient to get to the "good part" where allegations of cowardice, cover-up and conspiracy are bandied about and "proved", but that will not be for some time, I'm afraid, as we dealing with evidence and reality here. The version posted by Antonio ...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Antonio and all, Happy New Year to all, and success to all our investigators and their contributions...….. during the last years I should have posted those 3 messages a dozen of times with the related source on several threads Indeed you may well have, and well done for doing so, and there sho...
by wadinga
Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:43 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Antonio, So we gather that the typescript you reproduced in this particular instance, had errors too. Lucky nobody here is infallible! I note, whereas Duncan has responsibly revealed his source, you keep yours secret. as already deciphered by some officer in charge to prepare the after the bat...
by wadinga
Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:30 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Antonio, it should be a typo on the Admiralty copy of the messages, ... because the original message is the one I have posted. Why is the message you have posted on 22nd Dec different to the 05:43 message in David Mearns book or on this website? http://jproc.ca/radiostor/hood.html 4. The enemy...
by wadinga
Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello All, Let's have another eye witness tell us about gin-clear air off Greenland on the evening of the 23rd May 1941. Busch aboard Prinz Eugen (Ulrich Rudofsky, October 2003) There, behind the field rise cloud-like, but motionless, silently and deathly far, the high, snow-covered mountains. The m...
by wadinga
Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello Alberto, White could theoretically see the tops of the German ships before they were at 30 sm. He did not, So not being able to see them at 30 miles means he could only see them at 19-20 miles. Why? What happened to the bit in between? We know when the radio report of an unidentified vessel on...
by wadinga
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck at DS after the second turn
Replies: 368
Views: 22996

Re: Bismarck at DS after the second turn

Hello All, I have retyped part of Brooke's description to remind people of what was actually seen, but it is still being ignored to be replaced by constructed/imagined "mist": Something suddenly came up over the horizon to grow slowly but distinctly ; the top of a mast. Then a little to its left som...