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by wadinga
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Here are two documents recently located at NA, Kew. Both are Crown Copyright. The documents are made available under the Open Government licence. These images were not made by the NA and are not subject to their image reproduction policy. In the first Dudley Pound dated 17th Nov...
by wadinga
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Revered Moderator,

Pray stay your hand. I hope very shortly to have two "truly new and heretofore unseen "documents from the National Archives by Dudley Pound (signature green ink!) and Oliver Bevin Director of Naval Ordnance commenting directly on this subject.

All the best

wadinga
by wadinga
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, It has been said After incautiously trusting the given word of a forum member... so it is accepted that this part giving away useful information that was intended to be withheld along with, apparently, a great deal of other useful information, for commercial reasons presumably, ...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Now we have acceptance: The Barben's workaround was possibly put in place after the jam occurred, to get the turret ready in case to fire again (at slower RoF) until the ring was back in action at 8:25, thus to "carry on" during the retreat, had Lutjens decided to follow PoW to ...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Hello Byron, I agree with all you have said. This is surely not a debating society, where opposing points of view are generated solely for the sake of controversy and equally matched teams of participants are judged on their persuasiveness. We here are interested in real history and uncovering the d...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5251

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Fellow Contributors. What the captain of Cornwall "knew" about Japanese aerial capabilities and the top-level intelligence available to Somerville gleaned from examining the devastating raids by Nagumo's force on Pearl Harbor and Darwin are probably very different things. Captain Abe(?) was apparent...
by wadinga
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5251

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Fellow Contributors, It is possible, but from what IIRC at least, at the time of Operation C, Somerville expected to meet 2 enemy fleet carriers with maximum 96 planes on them (48 + 48), with a more probable set-up considered being 40+40. Therefore, his 2 fleet carriers with 83 operational machiens ...
by wadinga
Thu May 30, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Although Alecsandros has attempted to present his own figures in a different form, it is based IMHO on serious misapprehensions. We can not compare that to Prinz Eugen on a per shell basis, because the battleship and cruiser used different shells, in terms of weight, guns, etc. ...
by wadinga
Wed May 29, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Alecsandros (happily still with us) points out: Who looks there finds Prince of Wales effective output of 85% , the same as Prinz Eugen's. So PoW fired only 41 shells to reach the same value of missed shots as it took PG 150 to achieve. If PoW had fired as many as 55 as per the ...
by wadinga
Wed May 29, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, Returning from the commercial break. Her "effective RoF" was just slightly less than Bismarck's Please let's compare the 55 shells in 9 minutes with the 93 shells in 14 minutes Why bother since it is a specious comparison? Even the dear departed Alecsandros couldn't stomach the ...
by wadinga
Wed May 29, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5251

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Fellow Contributors, It has been observed that leaving the actual situation somewhat indeterminate is unsatisfying for one contributor. That is because whereas he operates in a universe where reality can be "set aside" in order to satisfy the requirements of a predetermined circumstances based on an...
by wadinga
Tue May 28, 2019 4:46 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, This statement seems nonsensical to me An excellent RoF compensates for a loss of output You can't have a high rate of fire with low output. PG had to fire 150 plus shells at 25-30 sec salvo rate to achieve this much lower drop in output than PoW achieved in only 55 shots. If Mc...
by wadinga
Mon May 27, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941
Replies: 251
Views: 5251

Re: Message Traffic heard by RODNEY 24 May 1941

Hello Alecsandros, I am most concerned to hear that that being involved in this debate has put such an emotional strain on you. Please do no take it so seriously and be of good cheer. Your contributions have been most valid, and all the more interesting for those occasions when you questioned not ju...
by wadinga
Mon May 27, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, It doesn't take several pages to Show Mr Virtuani's interpretation of Tovey's summary is at odds with the actual report: How can resulted in a decent output, be reconciled with The loss of output in PoW's case might have been much greater ie The loss of output was great (bad) to...
by wadinga
Mon May 27, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: More on KGV Class main armament problems
Replies: 136
Views: 2531

Re: More on KGV Class main armament problems

Fellow Contributors, What exactly would Admiral Tovey know about using a hacksaw to cut off bits of the hinged tray to clear the loading ring on A turret? I have already supplied p 187 in which Tovey says The loss of output in PoW's case might have been much greater had it not been for the energetic...