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by wadinga
Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:08 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Alberto, you don't deserve to share my documents anymore My underlining. :cool: You don't own any of these documents, nobody does, unless they are the things you write. This proprietary attitude is the same we suffered when Antonio would cut out tiny thumbnails from maps to promote his groundl...
by wadinga
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Alberto, Do you need me to re-post all these pages, explaining you what they mean ? I know what they mean and you keep posting the same material with your same highly biased interpretations. BTW Did you know you left Paragraph one out of the Tovey letter again? :o The June 2nd War Cabinet minu...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Alberto, It is you who brought the evidence to light, proving Tovey was remembering things that never happened from 1950 onwards. :wink: Roskill knew very well Tovey was remembering things that never happened which is why he never published them until he could cite Kennedy. By bluffing over Ke...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Alberto, I used the search to see whether you just cut and paste this stuff but you actually type it all For the time being, the Court Martial threat is so well proven by Tovey letters, Tovey conversation with McMullen, Roskill statements in his books (+ other historians), ADM 205/10 papers an...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Cag, Hi Wadinga, thanks, I'll try to post the relevant facts, the first bit is about the message and generally repeats what we know. Thank you please do so, as far as you are able to. Again to be fair to Alberto he has given, as far as I can tell from my notes, the CM threat wording correct. A...
by wadinga
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 90
Views: 1076

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

Hello Antonio, 3) On the letter from Adm Tovey to Stephen Roskill, Tovey declared that there was a phone call probably on May 30th, 1941 where Adm Pound asked Tovey a trial for Court Martial for RearAdm Wake-Walker and Capt Leach for not having re-engaged the Bismarck in the afternoon of May 24th, 1...
by wadinga
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:38 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 67
Views: 601

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello All, This surely was not calm down the War Room in London, I don't imagine Tovey was in the least bit bothered about providing a running commentary so as to calm anybody. Apart from unhelpful messages like "have you thought of a destroyer attack" and "are you still chasing"...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Alberto, I really don't see why you are so het-up. :shock: Wadinga wrote: "Did you remove the reference to the towing signal when you reproduced the 1961 letter leaving 1) Hi Sean, yes I did, So you freely admit withholding the 11 lines. :? This surely accepts that you have redacted Tovey...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Antonio, If its closed you won't need to post here again. Alberto, I'm disappointed, haven't I effusively thanked you in the past and I'm confused - are you offering to sell me the truth? Maybe I will sign the non disclosure in Cambridge and find out what the 11 lines say instead of guessing. ...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 67
Views: 601

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello Herr Nilsson, As usual a pithy, concise and significant intervention :D Another pointless interference with the "Man on the Job" along with "Don't forget to use your destroyers for a night attack" whilst he is trying to get on in poor weather with a difficult co-ordination ...
by wadinga
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:22 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 962
Views: 20848

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello Antonio, neither the Cout Martial attempt nor the " Towing signal " has been mentioned into Adm Tovey dispatches It would be difficult to mention the Court Martial attempt since it happened (if it happened at all) after the period covered by the dispatches. None of the other stupid R...
by wadinga
Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 67
Views: 601

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello Alberto, Antonio kindly reproduced Churchill's recollection about a ROOF signal to KG V at 09:37 yesterday. Can you point out where the words Coast(s) /shores of France appears? As Dunmunro has pointed out these words do not appear anywhere. Please acknowledge this. If you believe that the sig...
by wadinga
Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 67
Views: 601

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello Alberto, Thank you for this :D Tovey first mention of the "shores of France" element is from 1950 Excellent progress, we have established Tovey was remembering things that never happened as early as 1950! Can you tell me if he remembered Pound saying the message would be expunged, wh...
by wadinga
Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The loss of contact (May 24 / 25)
Replies: 23
Views: 318

Re: The loss of contact (May 24 / 25)

Hello All, As we have established, Using Type 284 on a DCT instead of visual methods to hold an enemy, because to be close enough to see might mean almost certain destruction, was an evolving art and Ellis was the one evolving it. It was obviously impossible for Wake-Walker to give detailed orders, ...
by wadinga
Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:45 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 67
Views: 601

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello Cag, Please bear with me, I just want to clarify. Is this one noted in B.S. 5 page 34 this 'We cannot visualise the situation from your signals. BISMARCK must be sunk at all costs and if to do this it is neccessary for KING GEORGE V to remain on the scene then she must do so even if it subsequ...

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