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by sineatimorar
Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:03 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck's engine spaces
Replies: 30
Views: 3908

Re: Bismarck's engine spaces

Further on the boiler debate. The answer is written in Battleships: Axis &Neutral Battleships of WW2 pg 292. The reason for the number of boilers is clearly stated and where the overall system inefficiencies lay. In the turbine design choice. The German units were not high pressure high speed tu...
by sineatimorar
Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:46 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck's
Replies: 9
Views: 951

Re: Bismarck's

I just knew I get a detailed response from the collective brain trust. I do not mind someone letting me know that he is going to respond when he made sure of his sources. Wish I had done that myself a few times recently and saved my self some embrassment. One thing this forum taught me is to be clea...
by sineatimorar
Fri Nov 22, 2013 12:24 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: high-pressure superheated steam boilers
Replies: 12
Views: 3215

Re: high-pressure superheated steam boilers

A couple of points I would like to have clarified. 1./ although designed to have diesels the WW1 ships never had them fitted as although designed and a prototype was constructed, no production model was constructed as the prototype exploded while completing endurance run killing a number of engineer...
by sineatimorar
Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:40 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck's
Replies: 9
Views: 951

Bismarck's

In recent reading on a forensic analysis of the Bs wreck, I started wondering was it the jammed rudders position that made holding the required heading to Brest or more simply the fact that they made inoperable by the hit ? I know it is a fine distinction to draw, but as the ship was found almost un...
by sineatimorar
Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Lutjens' Intentions
Replies: 138
Views: 7286

Re: Lutjens' Intentions

In the staring posts and other comments made by the Vic I note two points, one is a assumption and one of omission. Others have Tryed to make this point in this. The assumption that the bow was patched with steel plugs sheets. I think he bases his premises on the conclusion that as the plugs had bee...
by sineatimorar
Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:23 pm
Forum: World Navies Today
Topic: modern naval design princples
Replies: 4
Views: 1513

Re: modern naval design princples

The USS Cole was what sparked my interest again ,added to that is the description of the hull design and how it differs from preceding classes. The damage report makes for very interesting reading, I have a downloaded copy of it and I will try and find the orginal web link if anyone is interested. N...
by sineatimorar
Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:24 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.
Replies: 8
Views: 2020

Re: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.

There is the rub! Being use to utilizing science to prove something accurately and hopefully beyond any reasonable doubt; You wouldn't believe how shocked ( or maybe you might ) I was to just how much naval cannon ballistics was seemly based on guess work than any intensive scientific principles. It...
by sineatimorar
Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:05 pm
Forum: World Navies Today
Topic: modern naval design princples
Replies: 4
Views: 1513

Re: modern naval design princples

Yes you are right on that just because there is no armour does not mean there is no sub division of the hull to control flooding, and the natural need for internal compartments for human habitatation. In someways modern designs could be considered the extreme expression of the all or nothing princip...
by sineatimorar
Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:30 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.
Replies: 8
Views: 2020

Re: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.

Based on the data from charts published on navweapons.com and the chart in Campbell's Naval Weapons WW2. I use the data listed, specially that on navweapons.com on the 16/50 cannon shipped on the Iowa class as an accuracy reference as it is the only weapon to have it's ballistic characteristics exte...
by sineatimorar
Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:42 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.
Replies: 8
Views: 2020

Re: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.

... it's very interesting to work on such a project. Good luck and all the best , Thanks keeps my mind active. The facehard program is better suited for multi layer penetration exercises, as previously stated you can get fairly similar results for for deck penetration exercises between facehard and...
by sineatimorar
Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:33 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.
Replies: 8
Views: 2020

Re: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.

That was quick! Thanks for the info. As far s simulators go I read with interest the debate on facehard verus gkdos-100 verus Naab. I have the gkdos version in German ( which I struggle with). I just nabbed a copy of naab to run with. Joys of joys the ballistic section takes care of my strike veloci...
by sineatimorar
Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:01 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.
Replies: 8
Views: 2020

The USS iowa versus the German 406mm / 52 C34 sk cannon.

I been studying the question of how viable the H Class designs would have been against the likes of the USS Iowa etc. So far I concluded that as the H39 stood as laid down, protection wise it could barely stood up to either of the modern 16 inch cannons. The question of how badly the H39 could damag...
by sineatimorar
Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:33 pm
Forum: Military History and Technology
Topic: War time drydock construction in Germany
Replies: 20
Views: 2681

Re: War time drydock construction in Germany

Yah! Yes so would I like to know ALL of them. Hence the orginal question. As far as I know Elbe 17 is the only one operational today at Hamburg. Nearly all non floating types of drydocks were either filled in ( as at Wilhelmhaven and parts of the Kiel ) or had their dock gates destroyed as orginally...
by sineatimorar
Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:24 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1293
Views: 107764

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

I think in general, the problems faced by the crews of any battleship was the fact that each design was based on a set of limitations, either self imposed and or due to environmental limits. The designers could do very little about the last and were restricted by the former. As you 'restrict' a desi...
by sineatimorar
Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:52 pm
Forum: Military History and Technology
Topic: War time drydock construction in Germany
Replies: 20
Views: 2681

Re: War time drydock construction in Germany

From my endeavors into ship design the maximum displacement that could be built without altering the locks at wilhelmhaven is around the 138,000 ton figure.

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