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by northcape
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW readiness for active service
Replies: 127
Views: 1821

Re: PoW readiness for active service

The complete melt-down of discipline and morale, which came later (May 27th during British final charge) On which facts is this assessment ("complete melt-down of discipline and morale" during the final engagement) based on? On British interrogation of German survivors: "When interrogated in "Dorse...
by northcape
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW readiness for active service
Replies: 127
Views: 1821

Re: PoW readiness for active service

alecsandros wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:20 am
The complete melt-down of discipline and morale, which came later (May 27th during British final charge)
On which facts is this assessment ("complete melt-down of discipline and morale" during the final engagement) based on?
by northcape
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:41 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW readiness for active service
Replies: 127
Views: 1821

Re: PoW readiness for active service

Fellow Contributors, We have often discussed that armour piercing shell hits are virtually invisible, McMullen didn't know he had hit Bismarck 2.5 times. How could Schneider know a hit had not detonated? None of his shells should "explode on impact". This i a very valid point, but again, the german...
by northcape
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW readiness for active service
Replies: 127
Views: 1821

Re: PoW readiness for active service

Then I heard Schneider again: “Wow, was that a misfire? That really ate into him.” I'm not sure if I follow these discussions and there interpretations correctly. Anyway, the original german version is: "Nanu, war das ein Blindgaenger? Der hat sich wohl reingefressen" Which unambiguously would be t...
by northcape
Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW readiness for active service
Replies: 127
Views: 1821

Re: PoW readiness for active service

Alberto Virtuani wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:31 pm
(even when understanding that Antonio had demonstrated the true story): I don't know (and I don't care).

Bye, Alberto
No, there was no "true story" demonstrated. Only a suggestion/model/scenario. We lack data to confirm if it is "true" or not.
by northcape
Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: That 05:21 turn
Replies: 18
Views: 534

Re: That 05:21 turn

To me - as german reader and writer - it is a 7 without any doubt. But that is not the point. Given the fact that it is (rigthfully) deemed as unclear or not decided, everyone who is seriously interested in a historic reconstruction must of course consider his/her scenario as one out of many other p...
by northcape
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW shell splash
Replies: 46
Views: 1066

Re: PoW shell splash

A&A then refer back to this recreation as proof that their interpretation of events is correct. Thus we have a completely circular logic to their thesis; This has been highlighted so many times. By now everybody should be aware of this, and, in my view, the only way to stop the spread of this circu...
by northcape
Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

So far as effectiveness is concerned, I would again suggest the old 'Shots Per Gun Per Minute' (SPGPM) and 'Hits Per Gun Per Minute' (HPGPM) as something worth considering. Although at this stage, it's really difficult to tell what information of historical value might be extracted fromthese number...
by northcape
Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Aside from the IMHO questionable methodology of Alberto's table. The RoF ist a measure of what? What does it tell us about what? It does not tell you anything about how good or bad a ship in a battle did. Everybody who believes that may also estimates the air temperature from the color of the sky. ...
by northcape
Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

"I have published the relevant figures and nobody has been able to counter a single item from 1) to 4), therefore I give them as accepted by everybody (the rant "no" without any reasoning behind or the claim that "assumptions" are wrong without any proposed alternative assumption count zero...)." [...
by northcape
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Perhaps someone with a mathematical bent would like to explain why adding up the shells in all the minutes and then dividing them by the number of minutes is not an arithmetic mean. It is only by choosing to use different "relevant" periods for the two ships, that one can achieve the kind of statis...
by northcape
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Trying to restore 'order in the court'... I assume, in rather broad terms, two proposals are being made, primarily championed by Mssrs. Bonomi and Virtuani. These are: a) That Mr. Bonomi's reconstruction of the Denmarck Strait action and associated timings, etc., though not perfect, are at least es...
by northcape
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:12 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

I used the term "flat-earther" neither in a derogatory nor in a positive light. I use this expression to distinguish between two approaches: from facts to interpretation vs. from a desired outcome to creation and/or tweaking of evidence. In mathematical terms: from data to model vs. data prediction ...
by northcape
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

My only comment would be [...] Bill Jurens The voice of reason weighs in..... The voice of reason (100% agreement) has fallen to the same trap as most of us here before: Entering a discussion with flat-earth scientists (see my definition below). All of Mr. Jurens' points are 100% true, and at the s...
by northcape
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:43 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery
Replies: 515
Views: 12952

Re: PoW's gunnery VS BSM's gunnery

Gentlemen, I have just had another look at Tarrent’s book on the KGV class ships and it appears that from the outset he was not particularly impressed with them in comparison with either Bismarck or Tirpitz particularly on a one on one fight. This is OT here, but Tarrant seems to have been overly i...