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by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Mr Dunmunro, unable to counter in a civilized way my points http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&p=79036#p79029 , is now accusing me of insulting when he wrote the first insults here http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&start=1890#p79032 ...... ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:54 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

@Antonio Bonomi, poorly educated people (or people blindly executing a low denial strategy...) are shamelessly changing their mind as per their convenience..... especially when unable to counter arguments demonstrating these officers incorrect statements: http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:40 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, this shameless guy has posted a fragment of my post (he usually posts the full length posts, I was thinking just because totally unable to use a PC.... :lol: ) instead of the entire text, where I clearly said that Ellis is in error (and must not be taken literally when saying "open ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody,

another insulting person....when left without arguments, as anyone can easily judge from above posts.

Have the "deniers" agreed among them on such a low strategy or is this the independent result of their poor education ? :lol:


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, I'm very happy to see that finally Mr.Dunmunro has NOTHING to oppose to all my points above ( http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&p=79031#p79029 ), apart from the very single Ellis error stating that the distance of 18,000 yards was at "open fire" precise instant...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:58 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Dunmunro wrote: "You have the log entries from all 3 RN ships" And Tovey had all PoW maps and (mostly) had already issued a May 30 report almost telling the truth (around 6:02). Was he misled by totally imprecise (and contradictory among themselves) log entries instead of trusting P...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:13 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, another intentionally wrong interpretation of what I wrote: Wadinga wrote: "Why not accept your mistake, (actually Antonio made it first, you merely parroted it), and resolve never to use the phrase "Tovey's version went to the printers" " I only admit my quotation of Rhys-Jones was...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, let's fix the major errors in a recent post from Mr.Dunmunro: Dunmunro wrote: "Maybe the fact that all 3 RN ships stated that the action ended at ~0613" Which action ? The anti-aircraft one of PG ? PoW reports nowhere mention 6:13. :lol: Tovey had ALREADY issued his preliminary repo...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, I wrote: "Only Rhys-Jones went a bit in this direction, speaking of "Tovey's version" but not studying the battle in detail and thus implicitly confirming the same version." Someone has not read carefully enough what I wrote above. :negative: I have never said Toveyìs version was wr...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Antonio Bonomi wrote: "....what I am going to publish is just based on what Stephen Roskill......I do not see any problem at all for the publication." Hi Antonio, for once, I don't agree with you. Roskill understood the "aftermath" and found in ADM 205/10 the evidences confirming what Tovey told/wr...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:02 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, I had just written: "after we got read of the worst person in this forum, let's try to get back to a naval history discussion" My mistake , I stand corrected, the competition both for the most insulting and the less useful forum member is still open. :( This guy came in with no adde...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:02 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, after we got read of the worst person in this forum, let's try to get back to a naval history discussion: Wadinga wrote: "unless it's really silly, like arguing about what instant you call "retreating" for a ship that chased Bismarck for another day, or whether revising a guess with...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, possibly this very poorly educated person thinks he can make his first insults forgotten and get any answer: :negative: http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5830&p=54913&hilit=idiot#p54913 http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6770&p=65653&hilit=stupidity#...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Scharnhorst Class Specs: Armor Thickness
Replies: 14
Views: 2065

Re: Scharnhorst Class Specs: Armor Thickness

Hi Thorsten, so many thanks for your help here ! Do you have any additional info/confirmation regarding the increased thickness of deck armor around the barbettes of the main and secondary turrets ? Was, in your opinion, this increased armor a mere structural reinforcement or an extra protection for...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1908
Views: 55056

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

As it is very interesting to see how this low level insulting guy is shameless in his being back this week after his last week poor figure.... I'm still laughing at it... http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&start=1755#p78877 :lol: But we have to partially understand him, in his v...