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by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "he says could and would, not should." oh, sorry, my deep excuses to Mr.Wadinga , I " do not pick up on nuances " :lol: , however it does confirm that Wake-Walker normally had problems to " set a guard to his tongue " .... :lol: The essence is that all the recently su...
by Alberto Virtuani
Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:37 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 443
Views: 18107

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Hello everybody, ....but we were successful in building an approximate salvo chart that perfectly matches the battle milestones AND the very good Gunnery Report from Jasper for PG (not precise as McMullen's plot, but enough to give precious info and full synchronization with Hood first hit, switch f...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "So terrifyingly, unrelentingly, serious that Tovey had completely forgotten about it " ONLY because Bismarck had been sunk..... Tovey had forgotten nothing, as he said W-W should " set a guard on his tongue ".... Wadinga wrote: "he is out of the running, because he i...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:45 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 443
Views: 18107

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Dunmunro wrote: "Any timeline that doesn't use this as a starting point is most probably wrong."
...but any starting point that does not allow to build a COMPLETE salvo chart (using official gunnery data) is just a waste of time.....


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:47 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, northcape wrote: "Don't feed the trolls" We have never personally insulted this guy, but now, in his side-taken, blind approach, he feels free to accuse of "trolling the forum" people who have contributed with several new documents and thoughts to the discussion here since years. He...
by Alberto Virtuani
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 443
Views: 18107

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Hi Marc, sure, remarkable and very contradictory too (even excluding time shifts). Did PG delay open fire by 2 minutes or 3 and half vs Hood ? "Simultaneous" open fire of BS vs Hood or 30 seconds after ? Did Hood explode after 6 or 7 minutes after her own open fire ? :think: I still prefer to stick ...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:55 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Marc,
simply because we (in this forum) don't have..... then I added yet


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Herr Nilsson wrote: "Is this just a bluff or the infamous "silver bullit"?"
Hi Marc,
no, it's not a bluff and yes it is the "Silver Bullet".....


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:29 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Marc, as well as I have no problem accepting that you prefer the "typos" and "memory failures" excuses. I agree we have published no evidence ( yet :wink: ) of "how much" actually Tovey told to W-W, Leach and/or others. For sure the reports were prepared the way they were..... Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Marc, I disagree: intentional alterations to reports are the most logic consequence of such a threat, while "typos" and "memory failures" are just too easy excuses to explain the inconsistencies..... but I have to accept your personal different interpretation of "innocent errors" and "misremember...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Marc,
as well as "typos" and "dementia" are.....but the intentional alteration is a bit more conceivable in real life, due to the proven threat.


Bye, Alberto
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:18 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Marc, you are right.....not having the registration of the conversations......but Tovey statements are NOT necessarily contradictory as per your statement. :negative: We do have the letters, the ADM files and the intentional alteration of reports: IMO they are more than enough (and much more cred...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Herr Nilsson wrote: "But this contradicts Tovey's statement that he had mentioned it just to 3 persons" Hi Marc, well, no it doesn't. We don't know what Tovey actually told to W_W and Leach, asking for their reports. He could possibly have mentioned just an Admiralty investigation re. "certain aspe...
by Alberto Virtuani
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Herr Nilsson wrote: "Tovey wanted to dispose it once and for all before he would see WW and Leach. That means he didn't want to bother them." Hi Marc, as I see it, Tovey just means he wants to speak to W-W and Leach having taken a formal position in front of his superior, in order to ask them to pr...
by Alberto Virtuani
Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1652
Views: 48348

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, pgollin wrote: "you do not pick up on nuances and terms of speech" possibly, however Antonio has very well understood the essence of the battle timings and distances, of the threat and of the subsequent cover-up, while apparently others have not yet. In addition to geometry, words l...