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Hello everybody,

@ Herr Nillson,

you can make any correction you like Marc.

Just do it and show it to everybody.

Note : I am sure he will understand anyhow ...

Thanks Antonio

Hello everybody, the above chart is available for everybody to be challenged if they want to demonstrate that Norfolk was always at " around " 15 sea miles from the enemy before, during and after the battle. A similar chart for the Suffolk is available too. Come on, ... do not be afraid, ... you onl...

Hello everybody, this is the only reaction you are able to obtain from your stubborn looser position : Ridere.gif The mathematics and geometry is waiting for you, ... go study and do your homework, ... we wait your acceptance and admission of been wrong here in. No " bullshitting " anymore, ... if y...

Hello everybody, now, as usually left with no arguments to counter the facts regarding those evident cowards and liars at various levels we are talking about, ... the " hooligan/deniers " strategy is to try to switch target to the source, ... like if trying to declare unreliable the source will elim...

Hello everybody, you have not done any job rather than demonstrating that we are discussing here about cowards and liars wearing an uniform, ... their similar liar Admiralty/Board, ... and their liar politicians up to the Prime Minister Sir W. S. Churchill, fully demonstrated on his book too. Everyt...

Hello everybody, similarly, who wants to sustain that Adm Tovey while writing to Stephan Roskill was unreliable, is kindly required to produce evidence of this unreliability rather than use Sir L. Kennedy trial to sustain it. This simply because this Kennedy trial was already refuted by Stephen Rosk...

Hello everybody, as Alberto correctly wrote, now the time to refute what has been demonstrated is over. FACTS: Geometry, mathematics and ...logic demonstrate that, being at 15 sm at 4:47 and proceeding at 29 knots vs 27, due to Germans turns (the Lutjens "S" turn) and to the slightly converging cour...

Hello everybody,


someone wrote :

Calling you a liar is not an insult, when it's true.

Good to know, ... I remember it was not like this in the past when I have used this definition, ... but things obviously change, ... depending on the side you are into.

Bye Antonio

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, you wrote : Thank you. As I wrote before I think it‘s illogical. And it doesn’t work, because Tovey "heard no more about it". Maybe he heard no more about it ( the subject being the Court Martial ) , ... but surely he did a lot in writings as a direct consequence ( t...

Hello everybody, @ Hers Nillson, since you like to have my personal opinion, here it is. It cannot have been anybody else than Adm Pound, ... being his direct superior, the First Sea Lord and " the Admiralty/Their Lordships " for Adm Tovey, ... and the one that obviously managed at first the inquiry...

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nilsson, I did not answer you, because I do not have an evidence demonstrating who really did it, of course I have my personal opinion about it. Surely they did it by the simple fact that they accepted Adm Tovey intentionally altered version of the events despite the fact tha...

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, I will avoid to repeat myself, ... as I wrote above the ADM 205/10 thanking to Stephen Roskill is more than enough to explain who knew and approved all this event management up to WSC. When I realized what they did, ... starting bottom up as I wrote many times, ... I...

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, the evident difference anybody can easily realize between Capt Leach Official report ( plus his previous radio messages ) and Adm Tovey dispatches content describing the PoW retreat, ... with time at 06.13 and the Y turret jamming listed been occurred before the retr...

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, any of us does have his own logic, ... for me it is logic both in the military terms as well as for the political needs. Time ago while speaking about this with a very competent person I personally rate very wise and balanced, ... was telling me that everything was c...

Hello everybody, if only those " hooligan/deniers " were going to stick to the facts and not jumping up and down on any interpretation they like to try to sell to this historical fact we were going to live more easily. It is obvious that Stephen Roskill and Graham Rhys-Jones did not want to provide ...