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by Antonio Bonomi
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:01 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Conspiracy theorists
Replies: 2
Views: 21

Re: Conspiracy theorists

Hello everybody, @ Dunmunro, I am sure you are going to open a similar thread about some " deniers at any cost " of any evidence ... and the " trolling " activity that some persons do on the forums when they have no more arguments to counter, ... not to talk about the ones that s...
by Antonio Bonomi
Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:52 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Dunmunro, did you find that weather message text into the document you proposed ? I did not. Did you find it somewhere else into any Royal Navy Official log ? I did not. Where according to you Stephen Roskill may have found that message text ? Tovey received a message containing a...
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:40 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 84
Views: 1036

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

Hello everybody, @ RF, I thank you for your fairness on recognizing the above being all clear facts. I agree, we are all human and we can all make failures in many ways and situations. @ CAG, similarly I thank you and applaud your fairness as well on recognizing those being facts. What you wrote aft...
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ CAG, that is surely another possibility for that message mentioning the Bay of Biscay, ... an help provided/anticipated to Adm Tovey in case of the need to extend the operations on that area direction, ... so to South-East, ... either for him with KGV or others he was managing in ...
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, many thanks for your responses. Here what I think and can add to this exchange of evaluations, ... some food for thougths ...: 1) The Bay of Biscay is a known geographical area, ... it is a Bay from Cape Finisterre to Cape Ortegal, ... and not the whole North Atlanti...
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 84
Views: 1036

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

Hello everybody, @ CAG and RF, so lets list the facts first : 1) The 2 Hood board on Inquiry contain 2 different Wake-Walker distance declarations of the Norfolk from the Hood at 06:00 on May 24th, 1941. On the first board he signed for 20.000 yards and later, on the second board he declared that di...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, Dave & CAG, many thanks for your inputs. Of course the style of Command showed by Adm Tovey during this action can be compared to many other examples we have. @ CAG, I think that Sommerville messages were all referred to the fact that Adm Tovey was leaving the scene ( at 10: 11 ...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Dave Saxton, thanks for your opinion Dave, ... much appreciated, ... and I fully agree with you. Probably, ... as I think personally, ... Adm Tovey was not happy at all about what was going on with all those " suggested directions and controls " coming to him from the Ad...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, many thanks, I see that even Sommerville had very " large " view of the Bay of Biscay, ... :wink: But the real points here are : 1) What do you think about RearAdm Power sending that message to Adm Tovey only at 02:37 that night ? Please consider that the D...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, you wrote : Have you ever heard of the "Battle of the Bay of Biscay" which took place December 28th 1943 ? Do you know that this battle was fought in BE66 and BE69 according German signals ? And do you know that the Bay of Biscay was divided into three zone...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ CAG, I have the Pitcairn-Jones as well as all the other documents in original, I just asked you to participate and post them even if in summary, for everybody benefit in the forum, ... just like I always do, ... because this should be the intent of this forum, ... the sharing of o...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 84
Views: 1036

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

Hello everybody, @ CAG, what you listed above are facts and you can find them into the still available Official documents. They are all easy to be realized now after the analysis we went thru those years. If one is willing to understand and accept them is another story. I understand that is disturbi...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, the regular weather communications : Weather_1850_26th_May.jpg Weather_0717_27th_May.jpg A special weather communication, ... for the " shores of France " ... only for the C in C Home Fleet : Adm Tovey. Weather_CinC_HF_0213_May_27th.jpg Bye Antonio :D
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:06 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Dunmunro, I see what you mean and it does make sense of course, ... still Tovey was not providing any response back apparently, ... but only providing orders and directions, ... :think: This surely was not calm down the War Room in London, ... :think: Tomorrow I will post Corelli-...
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.
Replies: 64
Views: 566

Re: The KGV and Adm fuel signals on May 26 and 27.

Hello everybody, @ Dunmunro, I do not agree with you, ... sorry, no dead horses here. That is a clear reference to the Bay of Biscay that was at least 500 sea miles away from Adm Tovey on that moment. Remember that despite the 00:09/27 by Tovey you are referring to, ... that should have made clear t...

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