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by Antonio Bonomi
Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:10 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, similarly, who wants to sustain that Adm Tovey while writing to Stephan Roskill was unreliable, is kindly required to produce evidence of this unreliability rather than use Sir L. Kennedy trial to sustain it. This simply because this Kennedy trial was already refuted by Stephen Rosk...
by Antonio Bonomi
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, as Alberto correctly wrote, now the time to refute what has been demonstrated is over. FACTS: Geometry, mathematics and ...logic demonstrate that, being at 15 sm at 4:47 and proceeding at 29 knots vs 27, due to Germans turns (the Lutjens "S" turn) and to the slightly converging cour...
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody,


someone wrote :
Calling you a liar is not an insult, when it's true.
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Good to know, ... I remember it was not like this in the past when I have used this definition, ... but things obviously change, ... depending on the side you are into.

Bye Antonio
by Antonio Bonomi
Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:11 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, you wrote : Thank you. As I wrote before I think it‘s illogical. And it doesn’t work, because Tovey "heard no more about it". Maybe he heard no more about it ( the subject being the Court Martial ) , ... but surely he did a lot in writings as a direct consequence ( t...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Hers Nillson, since you like to have my personal opinion, here it is. It cannot have been anybody else than Adm Pound, ... being his direct superior, the First Sea Lord and " the Admiralty/Their Lordships " for Adm Tovey, ... and the one that obviously managed at first the inquiry...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nilsson, I did not answer you, because I do not have an evidence demonstrating who really did it, of course I have my personal opinion about it. Surely they did it by the simple fact that they accepted Adm Tovey intentionally altered version of the events despite the fact tha...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:49 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, I will avoid to repeat myself, ... as I wrote above the ADM 205/10 thanking to Stephen Roskill is more than enough to explain who knew and approved all this event management up to WSC. When I realized what they did, ... starting bottom up as I wrote many times, ... I...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, the evident difference anybody can easily realize between Capt Leach Official report ( plus his previous radio messages ) and Adm Tovey dispatches content describing the PoW retreat, ... with time at 06.13 and the Y turret jamming listed been occurred before the retr...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, any of us does have his own logic, ... for me it is logic both in the military terms as well as for the political needs. Time ago while speaking about this with a very competent person I personally rate very wise and balanced, ... was telling me that everything was c...
by Antonio Bonomi
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:53 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, if only those " hooligan/deniers " were going to stick to the facts and not jumping up and down on any interpretation they like to try to sell to this historical fact we were going to live more easily. It is obvious that Stephen Roskill and Graham Rhys-Jones did not want to provide ...
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Alberto Virtuani, no problems Alberto, ... I like positive and constructive disagreements, ... looking at what we have here in of a much lower level. Anyhow, I am thankful to both Stephen Roskill as well as to Graham Rhys-Jones for their valuable information. Of course I went deep...
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, what I am going to publish is just based on what Stephen Roskill, ... and I remember you all we are talking the Royal Navy Official Historian for World War 2, ... did explain us being the path to follow top down about this story, ... from WSC down to Alexander and Po...
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nilsson, Just as I wrote before, ... and Stephen Roskill explained to everybody ( including the hooligan/deniers here in not willing to accept it ) ... long time before I did , ... the ADM 205/10 is the key Official documentation explaining what really happened. Adm Tovey did...
by Antonio Bonomi
Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:16 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, @ Herr Nillson, you to decide which definition for Adm Pound works the best, ... I have no problem with it. Facts are that he first asked for a Board of Inquiry for 2 Officers conduct in action ( Wake-Walker and Leach ) to Adm Tovey on May 28th, 1941 ( Ref. ADM 178/322 Adm Tovey May...
by Antonio Bonomi
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1915
Views: 55314

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, poor " hooligan/denier " trying to convince himself while confusing the reality for the other readers. You simply forgot to mention that Sir Barnes praised WW and Leach using Adm Tovey intentionally falsified dispatches, written after he initially wrote a correct report on May 30th,...