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Yes, the film and photos don't show much in the way of smoke obscuring Bismarck's forward director tower, but I find it interesting that this smoke is supposed to slow Bismarck's RoF but PoW's smokescreen, fire and funnel smoke supposedly had no effect at all.. :think: At 3:40 in this film clip we g...

:) What 'alternate aaa guns' were installed instead of the 37 and 13:2mm, and when ? What is that reload time of 15 minutes ? Do you honestly think that ship was completed ? Perhaps that's why an extra 3000tons of weight was added after the refit in the US in 1943 ? (they can't be all coming from a...

Hello everybody, this is the smoke both from funnel and from guns, while Bismarck was firing at PoW retreating (on around the same course as when firing at Hood).....I have added big red arrows to help the poor guys to see something as they look really lost, possibly just a problem with glasses.......

Perhaps you can provide a page number and reference for that? V.E. Tarrant, KGV class battleships, 2000 edition. October 1940 = 38030 tons, and full load 42237 tons. Same source gives Prince of Wales in March 1941 at 43786 tons full load, more then 1600 tons heavier then KGV of Oct 1940. Tarrant do...

You state above that Bismarck was having troubles obtaining a FC solution even when Hood was visible through Bismarck's optical sights, but firing using radar would have made the situation far worse, because the bearing accuracy of radar was far worse than optical bearing accuracy. Visibility wasn'...

Taking 15min to transport shells had nothing to do with RN damage. Richelieu wasn't completed until 1943. Again, pg 110 and 121 present the timetable for installment of aaa guns and radar - up to 1941 - thus the displacement from june 1940 is not that of a completed ship. You obviously don't have J...

Jordan and Dumas state that she was and I gave you the page number where they state it. Reading J&D and G&D it seems that all the needed material for operational status was installed aboard Richelieu. Are you deliberately trolling or simply bored ? Jordan and Dumas mention the ship was "commissione...

Instead of acting like a troll you could respond politely by directing readers to this topic: http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5752 (explains some KM FC terminology and technology including the above). Of course it is obvious that Bismarck didn't maintain a constant output from 0553-0...

PoW was completed but suffered repeated main armament breakdowns. Completion and workup where equipment is given vigorous testing is still vital. But was Richelieu completed or not in June 1940 ? Jordan and Dumas state that she was and I gave you the page number where they state it. Reading J&D and...

That it would mean ludicrously long intervals between salvoes at other times is also correct. Unless Bismarck stopped shooting during the fabled 14 minutes. Exactly as PoW did. 108 is the second assumption. I'm even invited to make up my own nonsense value to be used in calculation: DO you understa...

The main reason given was to obtain ammunition, especially powder, and for dockyard assistance in making the ship operational. The main and secondary armament suffered breakdowns during her first action which is not surprising since the ship had no proper workup period. So the ship wasn't completed...

No there's no date given for the inclining. KGV was at sea from 15 Jan to 11 Feb 1941. In Feb 1941 she exchanged her Walrus's for two Walrus's equipped with ASV radar. Sorry, but there's no way her standard displacement increased 1500 tons from her trials in Dec 1940 to May 1941. Type 284 and Type ...

J&D say 15 June 1940 but physical completion doesn't equal operational status. If she was physically completed on June 15th, why was the ship scheduled to be sent to the Clyde in July ? And how is considered 'completed' a battleship that takes 15min to hoist the shells from the main mags into the t...

Actually, the inclining date isn't given in G&D ( I assumed incorrectly that it stated Oct 1940 ) but KGV was completed on 11 Dec 1940 and ran trials after that. The inclining data shows that full load and inclining full load are the same. Inclining is normally done just prior to trials. KGV had ra...

alecsandros wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:50 am

dunmunro wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:18 am

They also had this to say:[...]

So 15 June was not the date when she was completed.

What was it then ?

J&D say 15 June 1940 but physical completion doesn't equal operational status.