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Gentlemen, On the above page which gives the 'Working up' and completion dates it states: KGV started WU 10/12/40 completed 10/01/40 should this not be 10/01/41? Also for PoW WU 5/04/41 complete 17/05/41 These dates show approx 1 month working up to completion for KGV and approx 6 weeks for PoW, I ...

alecsandros wrote: ↑

Fri May 24, 2019 5:31 pm

Prinz Eugen's gunnery output during 1st engagement was 85%, and during second engagement unknown.

2nd engagement?

Fellow Contributors, To mark the anniversary of the sinking of Hood here are some more items of original documentation. All are Crown Copyright. The first confirms that the gun trials carried out shortly before her first mission, gave the Admiralty representatives who were aboard the "impression" t...

[Commentary on Mr. Virtuani redacted WJJ.] Therefore while I will continue to contribute to the forum I will no longer respond to any of his posts.

So, now the RoF of 1.7 salvos/minute are referred to 13 minutes, not to 20 as per KGV GAR ? Speculation, but, if true, then also the straddles are referred to 13 minutes only, according to your "free interpretation", leaving a gap beytween 8:53 and 9:00.... Just admit that the Patterson's narrative...

KGV was at 16K yds at ~0900 and ~12k yds at 0913. 13 minutes at 1.7 salvos/minute = ~21 salvos. So you are now trying to claim that KGV achieved 14 straddles from 21 salvos, in addition to further straddles from 0853 onward. Or are you trying to say that KGV fired 34 salvos from 0900 to 0913? KGV wa...

Hello everybody, is someone trying to find a "revenge" for the bad error made (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8552&start=135#p83637) ? A childish behavior IMO. Dunmunro wrote: "You have made a mistake here and appear to have misread the GAR...you have misread the GAR which itsel...

Excuses for posting wrong info (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8552&start=135#p83637) ? None Waste of time ? Again and again... KGV_GAR.jpg and now, double excuses are strongly required.... Alberto, you have misread the GAR which itself contains a typo [ranges for the section II...

Excuses ? You have made a mistake here and appear to have misread the GAR. Page 141: ...and despite the smoke the situation was situation was good and fourteen straddles were reported from 0854 and 0913. On page 144: ...However at 0853 a range of 20,500 yards was obtained and a double salvo spread ...

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Sun May 19, 2019 9:38 pm

KGV GAR.... You know it very well...

Now, excuses please for having posted incorrect information (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8552&start=135#p83637) !

Give me the exact quote.

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Sun May 19, 2019 9:24 pm

KGV reported a straddle only from 20500 yards (before she had difficulties in estimating the range too) and then 14 straddles from 16000 to 12000 yards.

Source please.

Hello everybody, Dunmunro wrote: "I did compare straddle rates between KGV and PoW, especially to hi-light the handicap that PoW's radar failures imposed upon her" PoW straddled after 3 minutes from open fire from 21150 yards and straddled again every 2 minutes (despite not having any radar range a...

Once again, I would ask members to at least try to maintain a reasonable and respectful tone in discussions here. We are clearly, once again, drifting away from that. As a personal note, even if very precise gunnery information was available for the firing rates and salvo intervals of various ships...

Alberto, if you feel that posting here is a waste of time... Anyways, it really doesn't make much difference if there was a few typos in the data I posted. Since Rodney did demonstrate during the action that she could fire at two salvos/minute, and if her and KGV had a better sea state with better v...

Hello everybody, you have posted wrong information, you have to prove them. I will not loose my time to counter such errors... I count 8 salvos from minute 9:00 till minute 9:05 and I can give you the sequence numbers: your .pdf is incorrect, check the original salvo plot. Bye, Alberto You claim th...