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by dunmunro
Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: KGV + PoW
Replies: 71
Views: 2666

Re: KGV + PoW

If we add the diesel to Bismarck's standard displacement it goes up to 44786 tons (45505 tonnes) . Adding in the reserve fresh drinking/washing water Bismarck's standard displacement would exceed 45000 tons. Bismarck's reserve of lube oil, excluded from standard displacement is also much greater th...
by dunmunro
Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: KGV + PoW
Replies: 71
Views: 2666

Re: KGV + PoW

Tarrant doesn't give a date for KGV's inclining, but in any event PoW was probably modified while building, just as Tirpitz was. You understand that Prince of Wales was over 39000 tons standard in March 1941 ? Looking at : http://www.kbismarck.com/bsweights.html we can see some differences in above...
by dunmunro
Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 671
Views: 45744

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Yes, the film and photos don't show much in the way of smoke obscuring Bismarck's forward director tower, but I find it interesting that this smoke is supposed to slow Bismarck's RoF but PoW's smokescreen, fire and funnel smoke supposedly had no effect at all.. :think: At 3:40 in this film clip we g...
by dunmunro
Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

:) What 'alternate aaa guns' were installed instead of the 37 and 13:2mm, and when ? What is that reload time of 15 minutes ? Do you honestly think that ship was completed ? Perhaps that's why an extra 3000tons of weight was added after the refit in the US in 1943 ? (they can't be all coming from a...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 671
Views: 45744

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Hello everybody, this is the smoke both from funnel and from guns, while Bismarck was firing at PoW retreating (on around the same course as when firing at Hood).....I have added big red arrows to help the poor guys to see something as they look really lost, possibly just a problem with glasses.......
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: KGV + PoW
Replies: 71
Views: 2666

Re: KGV + PoW

Perhaps you can provide a page number and reference for that? V.E. Tarrant, KGV class battleships, 2000 edition. October 1940 = 38030 tons, and full load 42237 tons. Same source gives Prince of Wales in March 1941 at 43786 tons full load, more then 1600 tons heavier then KGV of Oct 1940. Tarrant do...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:39 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 671
Views: 45744

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

You state above that Bismarck was having troubles obtaining a FC solution even when Hood was visible through Bismarck's optical sights, but firing using radar would have made the situation far worse, because the bearing accuracy of radar was far worse than optical bearing accuracy. Visibility wasn'...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

Taking 15min to transport shells had nothing to do with RN damage. Richelieu wasn't completed until 1943. Again, pg 110 and 121 present the timetable for installment of aaa guns and radar - up to 1941 - thus the displacement from june 1940 is not that of a completed ship. You obviously don't have J...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

Jordan and Dumas state that she was and I gave you the page number where they state it. Reading J&D and G&D it seems that all the needed material for operational status was installed aboard Richelieu. Are you deliberately trolling or simply bored ? Jordan and Dumas mention the ship was "commissione...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 671
Views: 45744

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Instead of acting like a troll you could respond politely by directing readers to this topic: http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5752 (explains some KM FC terminology and technology including the above). Of course it is obvious that Bismarck didn't maintain a constant output from 0553-0...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

PoW was completed but suffered repeated main armament breakdowns. Completion and workup where equipment is given vigorous testing is still vital. But was Richelieu completed or not in June 1940 ? Jordan and Dumas state that she was and I gave you the page number where they state it. Reading J&D and...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 671
Views: 45744

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

That it would mean ludicrously long intervals between salvoes at other times is also correct. Unless Bismarck stopped shooting during the fabled 14 minutes. Exactly as PoW did. 108 is the second assumption. I'm even invited to make up my own nonsense value to be used in calculation: DO you understa...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

The main reason given was to obtain ammunition, especially powder, and for dockyard assistance in making the ship operational. The main and secondary armament suffered breakdowns during her first action which is not surprising since the ship had no proper workup period. So the ship wasn't completed...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: KGV + PoW
Replies: 71
Views: 2666

Re: KGV + PoW

No there's no date given for the inclining. KGV was at sea from 15 Jan to 11 Feb 1941. In Feb 1941 she exchanged her Walrus's for two Walrus's equipped with ASV radar. Sorry, but there's no way her standard displacement increased 1500 tons from her trials in Dec 1940 to May 1941. Type 284 and Type ...
by dunmunro
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 30
Views: 264

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

J&D say 15 June 1940 but physical completion doesn't equal operational status. If she was physically completed on June 15th, why was the ship scheduled to be sent to the Clyde in July ? And how is considered 'completed' a battleship that takes 15min to hoist the shells from the main mags into the t...