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by dunmunro
Thu May 24, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

This is from Churchill's Anchor : DP to Cunningham 19 June 1941: In the battle for the Bismarck we were both unlucky and lucky, and I cannot remember any 48 hours in which I jumped so frequently from great hopes to black despair. It was a sickening moment when it was reported that Hood had been sunk...
by dunmunro
Thu May 24, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: RFA Cairndale and the hunt for the Bismarck
Replies: 2
Views: 57

Re: RFA Cairndale and the hunt for the Bismarck

From the Admiralty War Diary: 24.5.1941 Oilers Disposition 1 (a) Oiler CAIRNDALE fitted for oiling at sea, and with scuttling charges has been sailed from Gibraltar to patrol on a line 60 miles 225° from 43° 35°. 1 (b) Severn will escort CAIRNDALE who is expected to reach the patrol line about 31/5....
by dunmunro
Thu May 24, 2018 5:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: RFA Cairndale and the hunt for the Bismarck
Replies: 2
Views: 57

RFA Cairndale and the hunt for the Bismarck

I've often wondered why the RN didn't make provision for RFA Oilers to Oil AT Sea RN units during the hunt for Bismarck. Well it turns out that they did: 17 April 1941 berthed at Gibraltar under the escort of HMS/m PANDORA 28 April 1941 in drydock at Gibraltar 25 May 1941 fitted for OAS operations, ...
by dunmunro
Wed May 23, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, we have now a written confirmation that not only Pound and Tovey spoke on the phone about Wake-Walker and Leach conduct during the Bismarck operation, but also we have the written evidence that they exchanged letters on May 28th, 1941 ( Pound to Tovey we do not have yet ) and from ...
by dunmunro
Wed May 23, 2018 6:39 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Twenty years in which Paffard or Bingley or Brockman might have confirmed the myth, and yet apparently none did. The only observation from any of these close confidants is from Paffard who says Tovey exaggerated and magnified. Roskill does not disagree with these observations, and can provide no in...
by dunmunro
Mon May 21, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Dunmunro wrote: " a CM was called under section 92 of the Naval Discipline act" Wadinga wrote: "Excellent research work " :?: Would someone explain me where article 92 of the Naval Discipline Act ( http://www.pdavis.nl/NDA1866.htm ) addresses and justifies the &...
by dunmunro
Mon May 21, 2018 10:13 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Many, like Cunningham, might think Dan Duff was harshly treated, but accepting the account and opinion of the designated "guilty" party as gospel on their treatment is extremely naïve. Or convenient. Duff admitted to the court that he had made some severe errors in judgement and his "...
by dunmunro
Mon May 21, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Roskill_Naval_Policy_II_page_464_note_1_small.jpg To be noticed that Stephen Roskill defined the trials for Court Martial being Pound addiction to Enquiries, ... knowing very well that the request of the enquiry or inquiry, ... was intended being the " starter " of the Court Martial proce...
by dunmunro
Mon May 21, 2018 9:13 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, I knew perfectly that when a Royal Navy ship was lost a board of inquiry was going to be made, we have many examples on the archives, ... like HMS Ark Royal, HMS Sussex, ... etc etc That was not the point I was trying to make, ... the point is how they did it, ... in which way they...
by dunmunro
Sun May 20, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Loss of HMS Manchester. The definitive account of this is given in: THE WATERY GRAVE The Life and Death of HMS Manchester , Richard Osborne, 2015 When a RN ship is lost a BofI and CM can be combined into one proceeding. However there was a BoFI that convened that found that the ship was prematurely ...
by dunmunro
Wed May 16, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics
Replies: 72
Views: 3074

Re: 1941 Criticism of Royal Navy Officers' tactics

] Gentlemen, In the aboveletter Admiral Pound states that Rodney did not commence hitting until about 10 minutes and some say 20 minutes. My question is this, Rodney was on her way to the US for a refit,carrying spare parts and other stuff, so would she have had a fully worked up crew or just a 'sc...
by dunmunro
Mon May 14, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, the hooligans cannot shut up..... they can note whatever they wants, I can't care less of the rant of such people ! Despite Paul Mercer's and Byron Angel's wise proposals, Mr.Dunmunro is back with his wrong statements, now accusing Roskill to be not a serious historian, but just a ...
by dunmunro
Mon May 14, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hi Byron, Q.E.D. Mr.Dunmunro has lost another opportunity (given by you) to shut up, avoiding further making a fool of himself. Deniers will never accept to agree to disagree..... they are just hooligans: they cannot accept what was written by Tovey and by Roskill..... Now it's the official histori...
by dunmunro
Mon May 14, 2018 7:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1464
Views: 39380

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Hello everybody, Wadinga wrote: "as assessed by Roskill (who found the evidence of the "saga" in ADM 205/10) and immediately forgot about it for 14 years." TOTALLY WRONG: I see that there is urgent need to refresh Mr.Wadinga short memory :lol: about the reasons why he did not wr...

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