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Probably the "De Gaulle effect". Excuse me to be french, finally may be you are right with us...

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... The US is still in a debacle in Iraq and Afganistan over this issue. What are the rest doing? Just waiting to see what the US will do for taking the following one of the following options: 1. If the US wins they will run to the podium and say they are victors as well (De Gaulle style) 2. If the...

The Foch was sold for 80.000.000 of francs (12,2 millions of euros). My opinion is that this ship had to be sent to the brokers.

Regarding MEK, I think it is a endless debate, French and Britsh have their parts of responsibility on the loss of these 1297 crewmans.

Hummm... I didn't notice the absence of shield..., nor the redcross moreover... I can humbly suppose that my pengouin lost his shield somewhere around Santiago de Compostela and was later drawn by Florence Nightingale...

RF wrote:So Ostriker, what happened to that Prussian helmet?

I am trying to remove my lack of knowledge about "Middle Ages". I discover splendid things. So my avatar is "up to date"

As usually, you don't reply to the question...

Are you gonna to give us all your anti-french stuff catalog Karl? Why didn't you reply to my last question? Pfff... Reading you give me the impression that France is the only country that don't deserve to exist. Do you think your(s) governments(s) is/are perfects. STOP DREAMING. PS: Type "Mistral cl...

Nelson Ott wrote:
I agree with ostriker, examples of unreliability can be found everywhere. My point is: please do not praise a supposed better reliability of French gear, simply because, as noted before in this topic, they are not better nor worse than the other's.

That's the point.

Pfff... Reading you give me the impression that France is the only country that don't deserve to exist. Do you think your(s) governments(s) is/are perfects. STOP DREAMING. PS: Type "Mistral class" or something like that in google, and you will see what is the Mistral class. It is not a an aicraft ca...

Nelson, I must agree with Bill, Brazil has not to complain for having bought a second hand carrieR. The Foch was out of date and Brazil was aware of what they were buying... for steel price... In my opinion, - I won't be so harmfull as Bill is -, is that every nation is proud of his own technologies...

Karl Heidenreich wrote:
P.D. Don´t buy French, bad investement. Go a little more expensive and buy German or go as far as Russia.

Absolutely!

Ask the greeks for that, they have no regrets for buying german type 214 submarines insted of Scorpène. German stuff is never out of order, as the US ones, its perfect!

Karl, it seems you are forgetting the main point: Business. It is useless to be narrow-minded, industrial powers have sold, are selling , will sell, weapons everywhere. Infortunately, the moral hasn't her place here. And it is not the case only for your -loved- France. I remind you that other count...

Sadly it seems that populist socialist Ignacio Lula da Silva, Brazil´s President, is keen to put his country and Latin America in trouble with an armamentist race. Not even during the dictatorship periods of the 60ies or 70ies a Latin American country has developed such an agressive and excesive pl...

Hey Karl, don't worry; it is not sure at all that the Russians are going to order anything to the "Frogs". You can sleep well. :wink: I will really hope the French sell to the ruskies their idea of stationary defense system (Maginot). Maybe the western powers sometine need them to act like the frogs...

I will order it soon... A good way to learn such a beautiful language like the Italian one...