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G'day, all Aye, it is indeed debatable, son. We are here hopefully to discuss the merits of the battlecruiser. Have some cake ... I will grant you them Deutschlanders being faster than the Lissies and Royals of the British Isles but that slight edge of speed would at best be a marginal feature. As y...

G'day, all The sisters Scharnhorst and Gneisenau served as poastal steamers, passenger ships, cruisers and battleships. The fine and dandy Gneisenau also served as a sailing ship and even as a school frigate after the Second World War. And so yes, these historical figures carries quite some weight i...

G'day, all Yay, I applaud you for this very interesting thread, Voidsamukai. The original post stimulates the mind and postulates your ideas quite eloquently with good comparisons and interesting questions rather than jumping the conclusionary gun. Me like it. Bravo! First off, being a Gneisenau fan...

G'day, all Paul, I'm not advocating improvements to the Kriegsmarine; merely proposing a change of course. And in this regard your thoughts concerning the submarine fleet may well be profitable as I'm sure none would object to the position of the submerged arm of the German Navy being the most poten...

G'day, all Oh yes, Dave. It would appear we really see eye-to-eye on a range of issues once more :clap: The shape and development of the Kriegsmarine in the 1930s would and could not build upon wartime needs and experiences of the early 40s. One would hopefully concur this being a logically flawed p...

G'day, all Yes, Robert. We are pretty much on the same page and I do share your sentiments. It is quite an ugly businness, this politically correct BS. What I meant by my comment on regular, working people was not to highlight the orchestrators, as you so gently put out, but rather allude to the are...

G'day all I'm not so sure the A.G.N.A. ought to hold the description "problem" rather than solution to the Versailles restrictions - be it of a political nature or an armaments issue. The catalyst to war was the recapture of stripped territory, the polish corridor. If anything the Second World War d...

G'day, all Political correctness translates as censorship, plain and simple. Offence is taken, not given. By the way, nothing happens if you are offended. The world is not gonna plummet into darkness because of a few harsh words. People seems to be offended at everything. Even cereal boxes, which ha...

G'day, all More Deutschland class vessels translates to no A.G.N.A. and a more likely intervention into German rearmament plans. Was it not so that a key paragraph of the Anglo-German treaty was precisely the abandonment of the Deutschland class? 15" guns or not, like the Bismarck was the Scharnhors...

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Are you in possession of Gneisenau's KTB, Jose? Could I make a request whether you have a link to this or even better if the whole log (38 thru 42) is available for download somewhere?

Think I just wet my pants. This sum good shieet

G´day all An update on the matter at hand... If the one to open this thread is still seeking accurate plans for Gneisenau I could inform you I just recently received a copy of a long desired masterpiece paperback, namely The Battleship Gneisenau from Kagero Publishing. Laid out in 3-D format this pa...

G´day all Why don´t we just start off with the most essential of questions and determine the period to be reflected in your model? This must be established before I can provide any design details or track down plans. As an example why this is sort of important let´s look at the hangar of Gneisenau; ...

G´day all @ Saltheart True, Wikipedia is not always the most reliable of sources. I made a thread some years ago regarding the Renown vs Twins duel. It can be found in the naval section (1922 - 1945) of this forum named " The Battle of Stromvaer" There are multiple sources listed therein and could h...

G´day all All those bombs that hit Sharnhorst and went right through her in Brest did great damage. I have read only one account of serious bomb damage to Scharnhorst while in France, this on June 24th while she was conducting trials with a recently overhauled machinery north of La Pallice. A stick ...

G´day all Garrett is a poor source on this particular encounter “...put all her fire control equipment out of action, ...second impact silenced turret Caesar” One 38 cm hit (a thru-and-thru) severed the power supply to the foretop fire director and also resulted in the loss of the ships senior gunne...