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[Commentary redacted WJJ] Imagine there is a counter that counts down from 30 to 20. One has to estimate the current number. The current number is decremented each time. What McMullen did was to say: 30 -> far over (25=current number) 28 -> far over (24) 26 -> far over (23) 24 -> far over (22) 22 ->...

Hello everybody, "It's just striking that McMullen needed some much time to arrive at what the Germans call "good side"" It's not at all, keeping into account that : 1) PoW had no radar assisted initial range (we can suppose, although not sure, that Bismarck had one), thus the needed adjustments. 2...

Hello everybody, the "purpose" of this discussion has become the evident attempt (by everyone here) to support at any cost the fabrication of additional hits from Bismarck to Hood ( making fitting what doesn't fit ...), due to the comparison between PoW gunnery performances vs Bismarck's ones (http...

@all I lost track again: 1.) "Schmalenbach speculates. Brinkmann's signature just means he has read it. Schmundt wasn't there, etc.etc….." …. What doesn't fit will be made to fit (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&p=76796&hilit=doesn%27t+fit#p76796).… Means what? I still don't ...

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Tue May 14, 2019 1:38 pm

"Schmalenbach speculates. Brinkmann's signature just means he has read it. Schmundt wasn't there, etc.etc….."

….What doesn't fit will be made to fit (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6728&p=76796&hilit= ... fit#p76796).…

Means what?

Schmalenbach speculates. Brinkmann's signature just means he has read it. Schmundt wasn't there. He relies most probably on Schmalenbach's speculation. Müllenheim-Rechberg's book is a rehash of Brennecke's enriched with a few anecdotes and Brennecke is basically a rehash of M.DV.Nr 601 Heft 3. In 19...

I can understand Alberto's reluctance to a certain degree. The main problem is that the transcript/translation-PDF prevents cut and paste. The underlining was already done in the original German text by the way. As several times before I can state that the translation is very good, because it soften...

1) Jasper is clear enough that his 4th salvo was the one that hit Hood and started the fire, I don't see any reason why he should be wrong as his account of the PG opening salvos is precise and he even explains how he could ditinguish between the 15", the 8" and the 6" splashes... He was far away, ...

As for the timings (6:03 vs 6:13, etc), various British documents have been submitted to the forum along the years, showing that correct appreciation of the times existed in contemporary documents. The 'typo' '6:13' apparently first appeared in Tovey's letter, from which it had been copied into sub...

The hole in the upper deck was just about 28 cm IIRC. Later on the estimation of the bomb size was corrected. I will try to find it again. Unfortunately I‘m very busy until Wednesday.

@Thorsten

T1022-Roll2997 PG47991

I've lost track. Aside from arguing for the sake of arguing what's the purpose of this discussion at all?

This is from Whitley: ...The bomb struck and penetrated the upper deck forward of "A" turret and was deflected aft by the longitudinal armoured bulkhead at frame space 185,6, subsequently exploding on the armoured deck by a hatch and ventilation trunk, in the seaman petty officers' mess. The vertic...

alecsandros wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:45 am

Ah, ok.
I don't understand the final phrase though. The one with honey-combing of compartment. What does it mean ?

I'm just responsible for German translations.

I created a new topic for the extract of the letter: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8542#p83085

Extract of a letter written by a naval officer to his wife in England
Diaries of Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Volume 466, November 27-November 30, 1941, page 368 et sqq. (PDF: page 176 et sqq.)