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@Jose The damage control book isn’t a report, but a general map of all watertight rooms. It is the basis for any damage control activity in regard of communication and countermeasures. In damage control unambiguity is essential for survival. To illustrate it, here is a picture of a damage report not...

No, for the location of damages only the damage control book is relevant. And the damage control book is unambiguous.

No, it‘s not a matter of deflection. The official statement is „exit above armor deck“, which is the upper platform deck in this area. The big hole is on the tween deck. Therefore it can‘t be from PoW.

The problem is that the hole on the starboard side is one deck to high.

Certainly not Antonio's.

The question is does Antonio‘s battle reconstruction put in context all available info (official tracks, photos, film and official reports + reliable accounts) ? Yes or No.

alecsandros wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:15 pm

Herr Nilsson wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:48 pm

It‘s measured in the real world, it makes it possible to compare different cars, but driving a car is much more complex.

Yes, and real world gas consumption is almost always larger then the one measured in controlled conditions. Wouldn't you agree ?

Yes.

Are fuel economy standards useless? Certainly not. But no one of us is driving only 100 km/h and no other speed. In that case, they have alot to do with the real world, don't you think ? It‘s measured in the real world, it makes it possible to compare different cars, but driving a car is much more ...

alecsandros wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:57 pm

Herr Nilsson wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:39 pm

@Alecsandros
But that are artificial created values from a standardized quality test. They have nothing to do with the real world.

Then the test has been useless ?

Are fuel economy standards useless? Certainly not. But no one of us is driving only 100 km/h and no other speed.

@Alecsandros
But that are artificial created values from a standardized quality test. They have nothing to do with the real world.

And yes all other problems could have heavily affected the shooting of the Bismarck. Emphasis on "could".

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:39 am

it was true but content was jealously kept "secret" to others....

You made my day.

...and the existence of the secret document is still not proven.

@alecsandros Thank you for the list, but I've just asked for the RPC system for elevation problems. Was she still having problems with her RPC system for elevation (producing incorrect elevations per range), or was that fixed ? Reading the AVKS again I'm not sure what you mean. What problems? 6. Thi...

Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:59 am

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Content is crystal clear in both cases.....

A person who allegedly can read a secret German document should also be able to read the simple title of a German regulation about fire control. Anyway, my statement was true.

Hello everybody, Herr Nilsson wrote: "For several reasons I don't buy this tale." :clap: as well as I don't buy the tale that this guy has read anything he keeps "secret" about Jasper GAR interpretation (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5752&p=80455&hilit=regulations#p80455) Bye, ...

Was she still having problems with her RPC system for elevation (producing incorrect elevations per range), or was that fixed ? Reading the AVKS again I'm not sure what you mean. What problems? ... this hidden document ... For several reasons I don't buy this tale. Jasper says of his first broadsid...