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Alberto,

stay healthy and safe. Take care.

Best wishes from Germany to Italy.

Marc

AFAIK bilge keels were added and cool water intakes were modified (bigger?).

... H (actual height of Bismarck main mast over water = c 45 meters) ... The height of the main mast was ~ 46,5 meters above the top of the bootstripe. Looking at pictures from the Grimstadfjord I think ~ 47 m or even more seems to be more plausible. Herr Nilsson has given an alternative frame form...

to Mr. Nilsson: are you aware what was standard PK photo camera used in 1941 and which focal was it mounting? Is there any documentation? Not necessarily just a Leica. The Kine Exakta was also very popular for Kriegsmarine purposes. Technically -- i.e. without quibbling about the third decimal plac...

35, 50, und 75mm

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101II-MW-4462-16%2C_Filmberichter_auf_U-132.jpg Almost certainly a cameraman holding camera in his hands could not walk around deck under such conditions in action. I don't think we can talk about "walk". I think it's more like i...

@hans zurbriggen On February 3rd was caliber shooting. During Cerberus anti-ship artillery was perpared for anti-aircraft purposes, but wasn't used . "....wurde in keinem Fall eingesetzt..." [...was used in no case...] In the meantime I found some very nice pictures of the Arriflex without tripod: 1...

@hans zurbriggen

Thank you very much for the picture. It's from a secondary artillery excercise, isn't it?

I have no evidence for or against it, but I would be very grateful, if you could show me a picture of a camera on a tripod used on a Kriegsmarine warship at high speed with ship rolling, pitching and turning hard. I haven't seen that before.

Hello, to Mr.Nilsson writing: 'Do you have any evidence that a tripod was used at all and that this tripod was bolted to the main deck?' I have images of tripod camera, never seen it hand managed. To me too bulky equipment to be managed in action with ship shaking hard without tripod. Do you have a...

Hello, thanks Mr. Nilsson, I know. Prinz Eugen turning is logical as camera could not be moved while operating. I would suggest to focus on what can be understood from images in topic, without extending the discussion to the whole battle. My fault for speaking about the film. Do you have any eviden...

I understand. Yes, that's a possible explanation...with a lot of consequences causing a lot of questions.

So why did Bismarck turn about 2 Minutes before Prinz Eugen?

@hans zurbriggen

Yes, possibly. On the other hand: at the beginning of the battle sequence the stancion to the left of the garbage chute moves from the extreme left of the movie out of the right edge within about 15 seconds while Bismarck remains near the center.

Hello, to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'The person who made the film sequence seems to be moving towards the railing ': I do not think movie (film) camera could be moved in any way during sequence. Afaik it was mounted on pedestal and quite bulky: it could only be elevated and trained by operator but only ...

@wadinga The two 90 degree photos align the top chain closely with the horizon and looking at the crowds on deck picture, this chain is at about waist level, not chest high. Therefore it is likely a stills photographer, perhaps kneeling for more stability, took these pictures. Possibly...or the came...