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Or rather simply a better design than the Scharnhorst......

Neil, I am a little puzzled at the last sentence of your post. Whilst you do mention the 28 cm as the least accurate of the Gernam heavy guns I don't find the AGS gunnery at the RP battle that impressive. It was a much longer action than DS and AGS was able to knock out the Exeter (but not sink her)...

Paul,

Would your arguments alter if the Scharnhorst's operated as a pair as they did before the North Cape foray, with the 38 cm installed for Operation Berlin?

This basically is how the scam works. There is very little that is made public on these models, possibly deliberately so that the methodology can't be looked at and challenged. The recent missive from the IGPCC is full of exhortation and bluster, with no real science to back it up. Another case of t...

And did Bismarck suffer a hit in her boiler room during her final fight? Some claim so. Her vitals were supposed to be immune against such hits at these ranges. There may be some confusion here from the DS battle, where one of the three hits by POW did penetrate a boiler room, where five stokers su...

We are now approaching the mid-term elections in the US, how do the American members of this forum now feel about him? Have views changed since his election?

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Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:45 am

. So were the cables and lines really above?

Well, the gunnery control, bridge etc were exposed positions by definition and these are the places they can be knocked out..... a situation on any ship.

There's no question that Gen.Clark (GOC US 5th Army) made at least a tactical blunder - he was expected to have cut off a large part of the retreating German army sfter breaking out of the Anzio Beachhead- had he not been so fixated on getting to Rome first and claiming the prestige that that would...

Having gone into a long discussion on shells we have digressed further from the wider picture outlined in my previous post - what is the purpose of the ships, what are the strategic requirements, who is the enemy etc.

I'm somewhat of the opinion, that if Rodney was disabled early on in the battle; Tovey might actually have broken off the attack as alone KGV might not have been enough. . This was not an option because of the KGV fuel situation, and with Churchill in the background wanting action. KGV would have t...

An interesting post as it does remind me of one point which does remain a mystery to me. Immediately prior to the final battle commencing Norfolk arrived on the scene and misidentified Bismarck as a British ship, approaching injudiciously close to Bismarck. But Bismarck held its fire, why??? Had Bis...

Bismarck was simply overwhelmed by the combined volume of fire, unable to maneuver, and greatly affected by the sea state, and I don't see any other likely outcome to the battle. Correct. However the key at the start was that Rodney provided the bulk of the volume of fire with the heaviest shells. ...

I did start a thread some years ago posing this question which at the time received little response. Potentially a major early hit on Rodney could have changed the course of the last battle but not the final result. The key is exactly how much damage could be caused and how that would impact on the ...

It was entirely Mussolini's decision to go to war when he must have known that Italy was unprepared for war. The reality of Italy being unprepared when it has to fight would no doubt be depressing to the dictator who made that decision. My main observation on the action itself is that the Italians a...

It is around 1936 and I have been appointed as Navy Minister by Freedonia. We are planning to build a battleship or class of battleships. As Freedonia has reasonably good relations with all the World's major naval powers, we are able to use technology from any country. We even have a few engineers ...