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by RF
Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

Alberto Virtuani wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:50 pm

[No, it is just a very unfair accusation, if you have orders forbidding you to risk your ships against battleships. Lutjens had such orders.
Note that Lutjens did go against such orders at the DS battle, indeed further so in not ordering Prinz Eugen out of line.
by RF
Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

Timid is the word when you have two powerful fully worked-up battleships under your command, and you refuse to engage one ancient, slow, obsolete warrior left-over from the last war. Lutjens was supposed to sink merchant ships, one Hilfskreuzer could have done better. Interesting proposition. I'm a...
by RF
Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Indeed. With a full war plan, the Italians could have attacked Malta with a surprise attack, destroy the ships of the Mediteranean Fleet that were in Valleta harbour, take the island and then follow up with seaborne landings around Alexandria to facilitate speedy capture of the Suez Canal. The focus...
by RF
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

Alberto Virtuani wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:21 am
Had Bismarck been there, no doubt the above three convoys would have been attacked and destroyed as in no way a R-class or even a Nelson could have faced Bismarck alone.
The orders for Rheinubung specifically gave the Fleet Commander the discretion to do this.
by RF
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:51 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

Bomber Command made several successful raids in 1941 on Brest and La Pallice, hardly diminishing their main efforts against Germany. These raids were a substantial undertaking for Bomber Command, which at that time was not the force that it was in 1943 and 1944. It did diminish the raids on Germany...
by RF
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

There was already a powerful "fleet in being" for nearly a year in France, and it was completely ineffectual during that time, wadinga It was far from ineffectual - RAF Bomber Command was required to divert its efforts from the bombing of Germany to bomb the French ports instead. It also lead, indi...
by RF
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Or , better still, launch an invasion of Malta at the point of declaring war on 10 June 1940..... just as the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor at the point they declared war.
by RF
Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

ede144 wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:56 pm

The Tanker and support ships would have last longer.
Not necessarily. You don't need radio intercepts to find out where they are likely to be, just a knowledge of the sea and the places most conducive to refuelling and resupply operations. Many supply ships were lost without radio intercepts.
by RF
Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:07 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Alberto,

Thank you for the analysis in your last post, it is most illuminating about the Italian naval position from 1941 onwards.
by RF
Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Alberto, My comment about Matapan not being as much of a shock in comparison to Hood was based on cruisers being destroyed by battleship guns at almost point blank range, a calamity that could befall any navy - even the RN had inadvertently invited it on 27 May 1941 when Norfolk went perilously clos...
by RF
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:21 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

Matapan might well have come as a shock to the Italian Navy with the loss of cruisers, however surely not quite the same level of shock as the loss of HMS Hood was to the Royal Navy. There is a stark contrast here between the attitudes of Mussolini and Churchill. Declaring war and then forbidding at...
by RF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Treason May
Replies: 4
Views: 2214

Re: Treason May

You get the politicians you elect, the voters put her there.

2015 and 2017 - all Leave voters should have voted UKIP. Then you would have had Farage as PM, Brexit achieved and UKIP left as the dominant political party in Britain.
by RF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: World Navies Today
Topic: Can the German Navy Be Saved?
Replies: 5
Views: 5761

Re: Can the German Navy Be Saved?

If the German Navy is to be a significant force then that requires Germany itself to be a significant power in its own right - it is not simply a matter of money and provision of resources on an existing budget. To answer the question directly it would need Germany to have an AFD government that tak...
by RF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: If Bismarck had made it to France
Replies: 21
Views: 501

Re: If Bismarck had made it to France

Had Bismarck made it to France Churchill would have made it the number one target for Bomber Command. As Alberto has commented the chain of Atlantic supply ships would be destroyed and the fuel priorities for the Russian Front would make another sortie unlikely. What I would imagine is that the US e...
by RF
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42
Replies: 36
Views: 750

Re: Le Bismarck & Supermarina. LOS! Nº42

If it is the case that the Italians were aware of Rheinubung as it was developing (bearing in mind that they had a naval attache in Berlin) I would find it surprising that the Italians would not seek to take some advantage of it in respect of their own military operations, especially as the battle f...