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by alecsandros
Sat May 26, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck analysis
Replies: 5
Views: 75

Re: Bismarck analysis

When these gentlemen, along with Bill Jurens (who I believe had a hand in the 1994 version) publish their new book in December, this revised version will replace the article as the definitive information. Thanks for clarifying it. In the past decade, a large amount of information pertaining German ...
by alecsandros
Sat May 26, 2018 5:33 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck analysis
Replies: 5
Views: 75

Re: Bismarck analysis

... What analysis would that be , Paul ? Because it is a few decades old in terms of knowledge on the subject matter... Bismarck's armor array was optimized for the 20 to 30km band battle range, with the turrets and outer citadel being vulnerable to enemy fire , while the command positions and inter...
by alecsandros
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 179
Views: 6225

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

Alberto Virtuani wrote:
Best wishes !


Best Wishes to you as well , Alberto , Cag, Antonio,
and to everybody else as well,
by alecsandros
Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:18 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?
Replies: 179
Views: 6225

Re: Wake-Walker : To engage or not to engage ?

@Herr Nilson "No we don't and that's not the way to convince someone. " To convince someone of anything, that one must first be opened to reason, have the virtue of fairness, and be realistically willing to learn. Antonio worked for some years now to provide a very clear red line through a...
by alecsandros
Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:51 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

..... was the armour on AGS that heavy as to enable her to absorb multiple hits from 8"? Rasenack thought not in his comments on the two eight inch hits from Exeter. 80mm declined at 20deg is not enough to resist 8" impact. AGS wasn't designed to resist 8inch gunfire, but to destroy 8&quo...
by alecsandros
Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:24 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

Thanks for that, One other point, in a 'stern chase' AGS whilst having the initial capability to outrange the cruisers, surely the cruisers would not be steering a straight course but instead would be weaving about to avoid being hit making the AGS rangefinding more difficult, especially as she wou...
by alecsandros
Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

not sure that advantage would be enough. using plate as reference 8" guns got hit every 67 shells , while 11"C28 got a hit every 45 shells. Every minute the British could fire 16 x 4 =64 /67 or 95.5% hit, while the AGS could fire only 6 x 3 = 18/45 or 40% chance of hit. Now weight of fire...
by alecsandros
Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:40 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

How about 2 8x8" cruisers like Norfolk and Suffolk working together, would they be enough to subdue one of them? In many situations, yes, but I wouldn't risk saying in the majority of happenings. The weather would play the key role, and AGS would have the upper hand in good weather and visibil...
by alecsandros
Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:00 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Vanguard and Bismarck
Replies: 81
Views: 6753

Re: Vanguard and Bismarck

Maciej, Tirpitz's belt was 33mm thinner then Vanguard's, but behind it was the armored scarp , 110 to 120mm thick (which Vanguard didn't have), and the 45mm Whotan torp bulkhead (which was comparable with Vanguard's internal armored bulkheads in way of the main magazines). So you have that 110 to 12...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait
Replies: 1468
Views: 39664

Re: The Court Martial for the Denmark Strait

Dear all, I would like to present 2 aspects concerning Prince of Wales's disengagement at 6:01: 1) The material aspect of Prince of Wales exiting the battle , covered in smoke, and moving away, out to approx 40km N-N-E of Bismarck. 2) The judgment that was behind the disengagement (Prince of Wales w...
by alecsandros
Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:57 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: KGV and PoW GAR during Op. Rheinubung
Replies: 61
Views: 5360

Re: KGV and PoW GAR during Op. Rheinubung

For perspective ,
We should add that most WW2 battleship gun battles were short (10-15 minutes), thus making KGV's record during a 30-min interval , and in an Arctic storm , all the more remarkable.
by alecsandros
Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:59 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

This is especially important since German Intel were reading merchant codes through 1943. The convoy pattern had been deduced by mid 1941 with signals intercepts through early 1944 , about 1/2 of all N. Atlantic convoys were detected . Only 1/4 of these convoys were attacked due to lack of assets [...
by alecsandros
Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:04 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

The undoing of the lone warship raider concept was the rise of naval air power during the war. This occurred post 1940. However, in the 1930's naval air power (as well as submarines) remained unproven. True, but that required a large number of long-range aircraft or a significant number of aircraft...
by alecsandros
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:37 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

Gentlemen, I can see why the RN would have been worried, especially if more had been built. The only ships that would be capable of catching and outgunning them would have been the KGV's, Hood, Repulse, Renown or failing that two 8x8" cruisers working together, although I suppose it might have...
by alecsandros
Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:24 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Prince Eugane v AGS
Replies: 52
Views: 2815

Re: Prince Eugane v AGS

The mistake is to think that Hitler and Raeder knew (or should know) what would be the (naval) war. Raeder made long-term plans. If they had guessed what the (naval) war would be, they would not have started it. Lack of experience aside, it was painfully clear that the Kriegsmarine could only wage ...

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