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by Vic Dale
Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:35 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Command Ceneters joint operations
Replies: 8
Views: 911

Re: Command Ceneters joint operations

The command center could be established at any one of a number of positions. The Navigating Bridge, the Admiral's Bridge the forward and after gunnery control positions and there would be a number of emergency steering positions around the ship. In Battle fires might obscured the view from one posit...
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:46 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Are the bad guys on the move again?
Replies: 87
Views: 9216

Re: Are the bad guys on the move again?

Zhivago is fiction
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

I thought I had made it quite clear that that the collision mat was torn through action of the sea during hard maneuvering to avoid torpedoes from Victorious' planes - At 0007 - 0030 (British time) on the 25th. This event was recorded in Bismarck one hour earlier according to eye witness testimony f...
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:50 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

I have never suggested that Bismarck did not slow or stop to make repairs, so I don't know quite what you are driving at. I don't suppose she did stop, because without way on she would roll quite a bit. Making five or ten knots would engage the bilge keels and keep her steady, whilst dropping that b...
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Lutjens' Intentions
Replies: 138
Views: 7373

Re: Lutjens' Intentions

Having studied the preparations being made at St Nazaire and Brest for the reception of Bismarck, I would say they were making it perfectly obvious that that is where Bismarck was heading. The French agent Philipon will have been radioing this intelligence to London by the hour. In PG, Brinkmann kne...
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:38 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

What is being written here is not at all based on anything to do with shipboard life and work. I have seen these things done for myself. I have watched plates being welded into place, I have seen internal structures changed, by the hands of just a few men. I have seen whole areas of deck cut out usi...
by Vic Dale
Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:46 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

According to one survivor, the plates were not big enough to cover the hole. He should know better than you or I. It would really be something if they had plates on hand that fit any given job. They were likely standard size mild steel sheets (Approx 3' x 8') and they would likely not be 1cm thick,...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:22 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

http://www.chapelsteel.com/weight-steel-plate.html I used this calculator this morning and it looks like I put the decimal point in the wrong place. It doesn't make much difference to the actual job, because the weight is being carried by 5ton chain blocks. It might take a bit longer to keep everyon...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:26 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

I have personal experience of carrying out difficult repairs in heavy seas. It is surprising what resource the individual can bring to a difficult situation. Just as in battle, morale is the major part governing success or failure. If you have the resources and the materials, there is no limit to wh...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Lutjens' Intentions
Replies: 138
Views: 7373

Re: Lutjens' Intentions

An admiral of the Fleet is one of the highest ranking officers in the armed forces. He is already a Captain and has had command of many vessels large and small. Commanding a Battleship is a job any captain can do, though specialism in gunnery is probably a good bet. When I was at sea, the Captain co...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:12 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: War Diaries for Bismarck and Prinz Eugen
Replies: 16
Views: 1922

Re: War Diaries for Bismarck and Prinz Eugen

Hi Tommy old friend. It came to me in a dream - well more in the waking state after a good sleep. The Encryption Code could not possibly be sent in the encrypted signal, because it could never be seen until the signal was decoded. The law of logic intervenes heavily here - finally. The Encryption co...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:53 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

To Dan. The exit hole from PoW's hit is not visible. I did a detailed check on the location and it is buried behind that large lump of silt. The farthest aft that hole could possibly be is forward of the double bollards to port and starboard of the cable holders. I think I cleared this up on the &qu...
by Vic Dale
Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:37 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: War Diaries for Bismarck and Prinz Eugen
Replies: 16
Views: 1922

Re: War Diaries for Bismarck and Prinz Eugen

As I understand it, the encryption key was set each day, according to a standard book distributed among ships and bases making it possible for all units to communicate with each other. The key changed at midnight so there would be no problems until late at night when there might be some confusion as...
by Vic Dale
Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:46 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Are the bad guys on the move again?
Replies: 87
Views: 9216

Re: Are the bad guys on the move again?

Yes we are trotting out all the reactionary guff which the "official history books" have said. The Russian peasants were not a monolith there were various strata and it was the rich landed peasants who tried to circumvent the proper distribution channels and began hoarding and even destroy...
by Vic Dale
Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.
Replies: 91
Views: 9228

Re: Bismark´s endurance, fuel bunker and fuel burn.

That length of cable visible on the wreck entering the shell hole resolves this aspect of the discussion for me. If the anchors were to be let go, all of the cable would have run out with it. Anchors are very important when entering harbour. If a squall blows up it may well be necessary to let go an...

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