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by Steve Crandell
Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:09 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

alecsandros wrote:How many shells can be transported at the same time ?
Three per turret; one for each gun. Ammunition movement is completely independent for each gun. In fact, the turret gun crews can't see each other because each gun breech is in a separate compartment.
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:26 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

For the 16"/50, 11 seconds are allocated to raise a 16" projectile from magazine to turret.
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:16 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

I have the loading cycle for the 16"/50. Projectile is being hoisted while Powder bags are being rammed, breech closed, gun elevated, fired, and returned to battery. It is waiting to be loaded as the gun is brought to loading position. Powder bags are being hoisted as gun is brought to loading posit...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:43 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

Another aspect which enabled Bismarck class to have a faster firing cycle then contemporary battleships was placing the shells and cartridges immediately below the MAD (cartridges on top, shells below). This reduced the space that the shell was required to be moved , as the turret was about 6 meter...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:38 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Teleportation in space: Richelieu takes place of Bismarck
Replies: 4
Views: 3478

Re: Teleportation in space: Richelieu takes place of Bismarck

paul.mercer wrote:Gentlemen,
Would PE's 8" shells really do that much damage to PoW which after all, is a fully fledged and armoured battleship?
Everything outside the citadel is vulnerable to 8" gunfire, including the conning tower, the secondary and AA batteries and all fire control equipment.
by Steve Crandell
Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:04 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Bismarck Alternate Propulsion
Replies: 44
Views: 24200

Re: Bismarck Alternate Propulsion

Relatively untarnished war record? Brutal invasion and occupation of Poland? Invasion of a succession of neutral countries whose only offence was their geographic position? The list of war crimes and crimes against humanity is fairly long even at the time of Rheiubung. I was under the impression th...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:24 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if: Bismarck or Prinz Eugen made smoke at 5:45 and accelerated at max speed
Replies: 27
Views: 8599

Re: What if: Bismarck or Prinz Eugen made smoke at 5:45 and accelerated at max speed

I think that given significant delay, Hood would have chosen the correct target.
by Steve Crandell
Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:43 am
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?
Replies: 81
Views: 23560

Re: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?

I know I've read in a USN manual that 18,000 yds was the practical limit of optical spotting of 6" shell splashes. HMAS Sydney was able to observe her 6in FoS at Cape Spada at 20k yards and scored hits at that range, but at 21k yds, surface haze, smoke and the horizon made spotting very difficult. ...
by Steve Crandell
Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:45 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?
Replies: 81
Views: 23560

Re: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?

I know I've read in a USN manual that 18,000 yds was the practical limit of optical spotting of 6" shell splashes.
by Steve Crandell
Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:29 am
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?
Replies: 81
Views: 23560

Re: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?

And mostly British ships are described as a peace of conservatic junk full of flaws. Virtually everyone else made better ships. How it is possible? And what is difference between "paper" and "real" fighting capabilities? :think: You must read different posts than I do. Every country has it's fans. ...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:42 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?
Replies: 81
Views: 23560

Re: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?

Yes. And Montana had numerous longitudinal bulkheads. So if those bulkheads were so bad and flawed, what we should think about that design? Or those bulkheads in reality were not so bad? The engineering spaces were smaller in Montana/Midway, and there were multiple longitudinal bulkheads, not just ...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:25 am
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?
Replies: 81
Views: 23560

Re: Serious design flaws in King George V class Battleships?

Montana (and CV Midway with the same arrangement) was completely different from the preceding fast battleships, with much greater subdivision.
by Steve Crandell
Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:10 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

I'm not aware of a ship ever being hit on shafts or props by naval gunfire. Maybe it happened occasionally, but I think that is pretty unlikely. Well, we know Kirishima suffered either stearing gear or shaft damage, or both - in battle with Washington. Giulio Caesare suffered a hit which damaged th...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:55 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

I'm not aware of a ship ever being hit on shafts or props by naval gunfire. Maybe it happened occasionally, but I think that is pretty unlikely. With respect to armor penetration, if PoW is running directly away we are likely not talking about 60 degrees, but more difficult angles. If PoW turns to p...
by Steve Crandell
Sat Jul 23, 2016 4:27 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales
Replies: 177
Views: 28286

Re: May 24 1941 - Tirpitz v Prince of Wales

Why do you folks think PoW would be so much easier to sink than Bismarck was?