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by Steve Crandell
Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:14 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

For what it's worth, 8" AP splashes are about 60' high and 12"+ are about 150' high. The difference between 8" AP and 8" HE would most likely be that the HE makes a more "feathery" splash (wider) which dissipates more quickly than AP.
by Steve Crandell
Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Cover up synopsis
Replies: 623
Views: 44381

Re: Cover up synopsis

When people are in battle they make all kinds of mistakes in spotting, reporting, and noting times of events. If you ask several people what happened, you will get several different versions. Then when they have a chance to talk to other people after the event, of course they often change things bec...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:38 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

My point was that in a real battle with the ship's survival at stake, the average rate of fire was not 3.125 shells per gun per minute, and it never would be. A lot of people use that reloading cycle to show how Bismarck's firepower was much greater than all other battleships, and in the actual cas...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: First hit on Bismarck May 27th
Replies: 15
Views: 3309

Re: First hit on Bismarck May 27th

If Bismarcks A and B turrets were both put out of action by that hit, her fire would not be come erratic; it would become non existent, wouldn't it? The aft turrets were wooded, and the Baron didn't open fire on KGV with C and D until later. Also, the Baron would not know about a hit being "spectacu...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:29 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

The movie shows much rapid firing intervals ... I see 23sec once, 25 sec once, 31 seconds once... NOt 60... NOt 70... ... and even that is not 20 seconds per salvo which is the number you often use when comparing Bismarck to other battleships. ... In AVKS combat trials, reloading cycle appears to b...
by Steve Crandell
Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:31 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

alecsandros wrote: The movie shows much rapid firing intervals ... I see 23sec once, 25 sec once, 31 seconds once... NOt 60... NOt 70...
... and even that is not 20 seconds per salvo which is the number you often use when comparing Bismarck to other battleships.
by Steve Crandell
Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:23 am
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Replies: 98
Views: 25658

Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2

Where does it say that the turret operations were knocked out by this hit? It comes from the testimony of American sailors. I don't think their testimony should be dismissed just because it is not included in some report. You don't think the official document from the ship had any input from Americ...
by Steve Crandell
Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:57 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2
Replies: 98
Views: 25658

Re: Best Battlecruiser WW1 and WW2

Such a case is very likely a similar case with South Dakota at Guadalcanal. The incoming IJN 14" round was de-capped when first striking the upper deck armour at a very acute angle and then shattered against the barbet, denting it. The turret operations were knocked out with a resulting power outag...
by Steve Crandell
Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:36 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Battle of the Denmark Strait
Replies: 21
Views: 8352

Re: Battle of the Denmark Strait

I think the Germans would have turned immediately to unmask their after guns, and if that was likely to take them into the ice they would have reversed course back toward the British cruisers. They would definitely not have continued to close the range with their after guns masked.
by Steve Crandell
Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:28 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Wadinga wrote: "Incidentally this is why Alberto is able to "prove" Bismarck fired fewer shots per minute over 14 minutes. " Hi Sean, no, I'm able to prove this fact based just on the known number of actual shells fired ....... BTW, we are still waiting your own "proposal" regarding a complete salv...
by Steve Crandell
Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:33 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Hood Gunnery on May 24
Replies: 109
Views: 17449

Re: Hood Gunnery on May 24

As soon as the Germans open fire it is obvious which one is a battleship and which is not.
by Steve Crandell
Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:41 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 87293

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

I think one thing this discussion has put to rest is the idea that Bismarck's possible mechanical rate of fire is a decisive advantage. Here we have a real battle where it obviously doesn't have the effect some people have attributed to it.
by Steve Crandell
Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:17 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Replies: 462
Views: 32902

Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung

OK, thanks guys. If we are only looking at firing efficiency then it all makes sense. And yes, explosive power is an important measurement as well, but there are all kinds of sacrifices. If you have a lot of explosive filler, you must also have thin walls. And so on. All of these various things effe...
by Steve Crandell
Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:43 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Replies: 462
Views: 32902

Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung

Obviously number of shells fired is not an adequate comparison of effect on a given target. Otherwise the USN would not have built the Colorado class with 8 x 16" and considered it a significant improvement in firepower over the previous class with 12 x 14". Bismarck's guns had much higher muzzle en...
by Steve Crandell
Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:31 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck Speed
Replies: 624
Views: 50818

Re: Bismarck Speed

comment on the 30.1 kn figure this speed was achieved at about 270 rpm According to steam consumption figures of Bismarcks machinery, the ship requires about 480 t/h steam to achieve this RPM rated steam capacity of the boilers was 600 t/h at nominal pressure 65 atm so there were about twenty perce...