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by Lutscha
Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:27 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

Dumas gives an angle of fall from JB's magazine hit of 33° afair (can't look it up right now), which was measured by the French after the battle.
by Lutscha
Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:07 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Ideal battleship design
Replies: 162
Views: 64138

Re: Ideal battleship design

According to the expert opinion of Friedman and/or Raven & Roberts as with Garzke and Dulin and even Okun the issue is far more complicated than that. Both Treaty designs, North Carolina and South Dakota, as discussed in the thread about Bismarck and her contemporaries present a series of character...
by Lutscha
Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:03 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Armour Penetration
Replies: 81
Views: 15286

Re: Armour Penetration

The French were in no situation to adress their gunnery problems. You could scratch radar, RPC, AA guns etc as well for other ships, when war improvements are prohibited, the French simply could not do it during the war. Richelieu was troubled by the low harbour depth when she received the hit. But ...
by Lutscha
Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:31 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Armour Penetration
Replies: 81
Views: 15286

Re: Armour Penetration

I think it's out of question that one can consider BS' TDS better than Richelieu's. R's ich much deeper, has more layers, ebonite mousse (could be a mixed blessing), and was not single layer in some parts as the one of BS. The French Ships are usually attributed, and imo rightly so, as having the be...
by Lutscha
Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:54 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

You must really be bored... :D

Well done, I can only agree.
by Lutscha
Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:51 am
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: Armour Penetration
Replies: 81
Views: 15286

Re: Armour Penetration

@alecsandros Why is BS a better design than Richelieu?
by Lutscha
Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:40 am
Forum: Naval Weapons
Topic: Optical Rangefinders
Replies: 19
Views: 6981

Re: Optical Rangefinders

I wonder on what the often mentioned superiority of German and Japanese rangefinders is based on. Having read the navtec report on the Japanese ones some time ago, I did not find such assumption. I know it`s reported very often, but why? I don`t dispute it but I always read it as a fact without any ...
by Lutscha
Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:36 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck's Class status quo in the BB realm
Replies: 42
Views: 4717

Re: Tirpitz and Vittorio Veneto

Okun has assisted G&D in evaluating German gunnery and the armour systems. Page X in the preface " Mr. Nathan Okun contributed information on German gunnery and armor and was helpful putting together technical information regarding the protection schemes of the Bismarck and Scharnhorst classes. It i...
by Lutscha
Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

Karl, I just pointed out that the article has many errors concerning even basic data like armour thicknesses. You don't need to cross check, NC did not have a 406mm belt or 254mm combined deck armour. These errors are the same as in his old book. That's why I think it is outdated. The firing trials ...
by Lutscha
Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

Lutcha: Karl, read Tommy's comment, he is right, they did NOT use AP shells in these test firings. This article is very old btw and in some parts completely outdated. I will review the source and will advise on both of your comments, tommy and yours. About the outdate of it, I don´t know: it is old...
by Lutscha
Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:03 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

lwd: That's also a pre radar definition of long range. Bismarck's protection from her own guns is only a part of the puzzle when comparing to other battleships. But a that´s USN definition by 1945 when, according to you, the gunnery relied on RDFC. But don´t try to use anymore your rethoric tricks ...
by Lutscha
Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

Yes, it's for vertical armour.
by Lutscha
Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:15 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

Nathan Okun's results match well with the figures from the German tests, claiming the contrary is untrue. 38cm vs German KC: Gkds. 100: 20km 412mm 25km 335mm 30km 275mm Face Hard (EFF): 22k Yards (20116m) -> 15,7 inch = 398mm 28k Yards (25603m) 12,9 inch = 327mm 32k Yards (29260m) 11,2 inch = 284mm ...
by Lutscha
Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:12 pm
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Obama´s Nobel Peace Prize
Replies: 7
Views: 1311

Re: Obama´s Nobel Peace Prize

Why is Willy Brandt a social democratic spy? Because of the Guillaume affair?
by Lutscha
Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck and her contemporaries
Replies: 1296
Views: 169905

Re: Bismarck and her contemporaries

I'm just mentioning them because they are not as good as others give them for the superheavy shells. They are more in line with what you get, when you use Okun's programs. If I understand you correctly, the G&D tables give results closer to Okuns for the 16"/45 cal gun and the light weight shells t...