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by hans zurbriggen
Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, thanks to Mr. Nilsson for the photo. I agree it could have been used without tripod at sea (if photo is not once again a 'propaganda' for Propaganda Kompanie), even at risk to be shaken by guns and to loose the camera. Possibly is my lack of 'sea foot' that makes me thinking it would be bette...
by hans zurbriggen
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:51 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to HMSVF writing: 'A man holding a camera may well have better stabilisation than somebody using a tripod.' Possibly correct for pitch and roll when stopped. Not for gun shaking and shock wave with violent ship turns. The photo of Scharnhorst shows that even in exercise during gun firing (150...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Wadinga: The boat in image 1 is stopped (no wake behind it). Can we see the result of such a movie? I think not a high quality. If the camera was actually operated at all in image 1. Image seems a bit a 'propaganda' for Propaganda. Surely not taken during an action or exercise. In the i...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'I found some very nice pictures of the Arriflex without tripod:' thanks for the images. In all of them cameraman is leaning, kneeling or sitting, never walking around during a gun action. No clear image can be obviously taken when walking with the ship rolling, pitchi...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Wadinga writing: ' the Gefechtskizze was pronounced "useless and worthless" upon receipt by V-A Schmundt ' Schmundt : 'The position of "Prinz Eugen" in relation to "Prince of Wales" cannot be derived from the battle sketch. It is useless and worthless. ' Statement is clear. Schnumdt do...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello Mr. Nilsson, good question. I have got the image from a friend who claimed it was Cerberus operation (painting appears to be right one). I suspect it is not from the Operation itself. I am unaware of Scharnhorst having fired her port side 15 cm during Febraury 12 actions. Are you aware of any ...
by hans zurbriggen
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:27 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Wadinga writing: 'This shows Bismarck in some detail and shows the full side of her forward turrets with her armament firing very close to port beam in my estimation, Ie her target is in a similar orientation to PG's handrails' I agree with first part of sentence above. Conclusion is b...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'I would be very grateful, if you could show me a picture of a camera on a tripod used on a Kriegsmarine warship at high speed with ship rolling, pitching and turning hard. ' Scharnhorst in navigation, rolling, pitching and in action (admittedly, not evident if she is t...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello Mr. Nilsson,
I meant hand managed camera in navigation, at high speed with ship rolling, pitching, turning hard and shaking due to gun fire. I have only seen tripod mounted camera when operated.

hans
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Nilsson writing: 'Do you have any evidence that a tripod was used at all and that this tripod was bolted to the main deck?' I have images of tripod camera, never seen it hand managed. To me too bulky equipment to be managed in action with ship shaking hard without tripod. Do you have an...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, thanks Mr. Nilsson, I know. Prinz Eugen turning is logical as camera could not be moved while operating. I would suggest to focus on what can be understood from images in topic, without extending the discussion to the whole battle. My fault for speaking about the film. To me Bismarck turned l...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Nilsson: you are right. Thanks. About 'moving' stanchions, reading back the threads, I must acknowledge Mr. Virtuani (mentioning first study of Mr. Bonomi, I presume) for his explanation: see link http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8491&start=435#p82759 ) Also to me, the...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr.Nilsson writing 'If the camera wasn't moved, then the railing has to be visible ': It depends from where the camera is placed and oriented to. If camera is quite close to gunwale (lens almost over railing), looking aft or fore beam, railing can be visible when tilting downward. When loo...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:38 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Mr. Nilsson writing: 'The person who made the film sequence seems to be moving towards the railing ': I do not think movie (film) camera could be moved in any way during sequence. Afaik it was mounted on pedestal and quite bulky: it could only be elevated and trained by operator but only m...
by hans zurbriggen
Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:36 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?
Replies: 343
Views: 13617

Re: A correct attribution for the "Flash Effect" photo?

Hello, to Wadinga writing: 'Do we all accept that these appear to show that Prinz Eugen sheered across Bismarck's bows, at about 90 degrees to her course' It took to me some time to check photos. I disagree with conclusion, while I must correct what I said before. I also agree with caution suggested...