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by Terje Langoy
Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:42 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

”But I do believe German countermeasures will increase accordingly” “Indeed. I haven't contested this although you keep repeating it.” So when I say countermeasures will increase accordingly it actually meant countermeasures will increase but not enough? The key word here is accordingly. If a suffi...
by Terje Langoy
Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:56 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

“Well aparently you need it.” I´m just grateful you found an opportunity to share them with me. “I'm not familiar with that particular idiom or the way in which you used it. In case I wasn't clear enough I was asking exactly what you meant by it. Of course if you prefer to remain obsucre you can co...
by Terje Langoy
Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:40 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

“There is a huge difference between a hyperbole and a strawman. The first as I said is an obvious exageration not meant to be taken seriously. The latter is a distortion of someone elses position and indicates a lack of understanding or a deliberate attempt to mislead.” I´ve just been given a lesso...
by Terje Langoy
Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:00 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

I did not know I was in a debate with Schopenhauer. “Actually I'd consider it more of hyperbole. An exageration meant to illustrate a point but not be taken seriously. As such I didn't see any real need for me to comment on it. ” Being it a strawman or hyperbole it does however insinuate something. ...
by Terje Langoy
Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:05 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

“ That appears to be a strawman to me. I haven't seen anyone suggesting it.” Does that mean that “being bombed flat” is a more correct statement? It is as much a strawman but clearly this managed to slip past the philistine tendencies of yours. By all means call every strawman you see but I won`t be...
by Terje Langoy
Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:21 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

I´m referring to the part of the equation that other posts seems to neglect. I disagree on the statement that the British would be allowed to bomb Brest completely unopposed. Luftwaffe as well as the RAF had other concerns but this is utimately down to priorities being made on both sides. It is a fe...
by Terje Langoy
Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:09 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

... it would seem rather odd that the Germans should not act accordingly if adding a third battleship at Brest. It is not hard to predict the most probable enemy response nor too hard to determine a proper countermeasure. If the Bismarck make port after sinking the Hood then her continued safety bec...
by Terje Langoy
Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:03 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

...the Mountain is being bombed flat I do consider that statement an exaggeration from the historical cicumstances. The twins were not “being bombed flat” but they did recieve early hits that served to prolong their repair period. At the time of their arrival at Brest some eleven weeks were estimat...
by Terje Langoy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:21 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

Where it gets difficult is assessing the likelyhood of them all being in a state of repair in which they can sortie. The twins were almost continuously under repair while at Brest. Then there's the increase air recon available from 42 on and weather and lighting aren't as likely to interfer if they...
by Terje Langoy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:24 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

The problem was at Brest the German ships sustained repeated damage from air attacks. With an additional battleship there they this is almost certain to continue. Getting Tirpitz there would also be a lot riskier as well. A channel dash plus a new breakout adds considerably more to the risk assessm...
by Terje Langoy
Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:38 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: What If Bismarck Had Escaped?
Replies: 51
Views: 9412

... and makes it back to Germany with the Twins in a channel dash ... put the German capital ships together ... break out into the North Atlantic This strategy is like having the Mountain come to David. Let me elaborate: At the baseline you have 75 pr cent of Germany´s capital ships located at Bres...
by Terje Langoy
Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:18 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Twins with 15"
Replies: 2
Views: 1278

The modification would have made the German Scharnhorst-class a "modern counterpart" to the British Renown-class i.e. similar armament and configuration but slightly better speed and quite better armor. The conversion - or scheme - would be optional designs drawn from the table at a time when the An...
by Terje Langoy
Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:38 am
Forum: Books and Reference
Topic: Twins vs Beaufort
Replies: 3
Views: 6229

G´day all I have received the book Torpedo Airmen by Roy Conyers Nesbit and made a brief read into the chapters of primary interest, these being a) Scharnhorst bound for home after Operation Juno, b) Gneisenau torpedoed at Brest and c) Operation Cerberus. The book is written in anecdotes thus it is ...
by Terje Langoy
Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:13 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Battle Signal V
Replies: 0
Views: 1430

Battle Signal V

G´day all I was curious about the log entry battle signal V in K/S´ book "battleships of the Scharnhorst class" (Second phase of the Renown-duel at 0623 hours) The authors unfortunately gave no clues as to what this signal actually implies. The ship logs make no entries of this, only the fleet diary...
by Terje Langoy
Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:52 am
Forum: Off Topic
Topic: Is Europe a country? I believe it because I saw it
Replies: 7
Views: 6856

Geography can be quite tricky sometimes ... but this young lady know how to fix that problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww Apparently it´s all about providing maps to someone in Asia or Africa or the US. Just to have mentioned it to the US-members of this board - I know these unfortuna...