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by Dave Saxton
Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:05 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

....Interesting. Most accounts I've read saw that the blast from her own guns knocked out her (SD's) radar and severed wires which caused electricity to short out leaving her blind (think the book was Jane's warships of the 20th century). The rest, curious. So now that uncommon but still rare - do ...
by Dave Saxton
Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:25 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

The hull side is 1.5in D steel and at high obliquity will probably decap the shell and/or yaw it At least .2 calibers of armour grade steel is usually required in most applications of vertical armour. Littorio's de-capping plate was 70mm of armour grade steel. True the 1.5-inch upper deck of South ...
by Dave Saxton
Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:16 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

Rodney was much more vulnerable to shells passing below the belt than either Bismarck or KGV. The belt is both shallow and sloped. There was a probably of Rodney taking such a hit in this scenario. Rodney's belt had a similar UW height as Bismarck but appreciably less than on KGV. It might be possi...
by Dave Saxton
Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

Rodney was much more vulnerable to shells passing below the belt than either Bismarck or KGV. The belt is both shallow and sloped. There was a probably of Rodney taking such a hit in this scenario.
by Dave Saxton
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

In his Book the Baron said he received an order to take over fire control but that Albrecht was still directing the secondary armament - how was he able to do that if the FC position was hit? I dug out my von Muellenheim book which is the revised 1990 edition. I need to make a few corrections to so...
by Dave Saxton
Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

The critical hits which determined the early course of the battle were the damage to the fire control positions. For example, the aft battery remained in action for a long time after the central fire control was disabled, but was ineffective, being forced to rely on local control. If Rodney had not ...
by Dave Saxton
Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?
Replies: 87
Views: 3375

Re: What if Bismarck hit Rodney early on?

I'm actually at a loss as to how Bismarck's main FC was disabled by Rodney's hit though, the wreck shows a hit that seems to have hit B barbette while penetrating the upper deck, that's a long ways away from the foretop unless that was also shot away in the same salvo or another shortly after. Seve...
by Dave Saxton
Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin
Replies: 6
Views: 1051

Re: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin

How quickly are the two forces closing? http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/UN/UK/RN/BS-14_POW+Repulse/img/BS-14-5.jpg Kurita turned away to the N. E. and was heading toward a rendezvous with Kondo's battle fleet with he made at 0230. Phillips in no way wants to get involved with the combined forces of...
by Dave Saxton
Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:57 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin
Replies: 6
Views: 1051

Re: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin

Phillips was cognizant and careful about radio silence. He sent Tenedos away to transmit messages to Singapore historically. He will certainly not use his wireless unless absolutely necessary. He will signal his command with signal lamp. The element of surprise is crucial for the British in this sce...
by Dave Saxton
Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin
Replies: 6
Views: 1051

Re: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin

But............there are LOT of variables, and a night battle is an dire event, so only a reverse looking crystal ball could truly predict the outcome. :whistle: The IJN's night fighting prowess and their torpedoes could come as nasty shock. True Force Z has radar, but to utilize the gunnery radars...
by Dave Saxton
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Military Conflicts Today
Topic: Got to be kidding
Replies: 14
Views: 8827

Re: Got to be kidding

Civilization was originally doomed by an impending "Ice Age", according to claims which date back to the 70s. When that became too difficult to sell to the public, "Global Warming" became the new agent of the impending extinction of civilization. When the bald-faced and ubiquitous data-fiddling of ...
by Dave Saxton
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:19 pm
Forum: Military Conflicts Today
Topic: Got to be kidding
Replies: 14
Views: 8827

Re: Got to be kidding

One must be cautious to not assume that normal, or abnormal, weather events are indicators of long term climate trends. For example, the northern European heat wave this summer was caused by unusually cold ocean waters in the Atlantic off Africa. From an article at Wattsupwiththat by Joe D’Aleo CCM,...
by Dave Saxton
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:33 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin
Replies: 6
Views: 1051

Re: Is Admiral Phillips finest hour about to begin

15 nautica l miles is about 30,000 yards. POW's 273 picking up IJN cruisers at that range might be a stretch under normal conditions. That's not to say it could not have happened. Radar pickup range can vary quite a bit. Sometimes it could exceed expectations by quite a bit. Sometimes it could fail ...
by Dave Saxton
Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:48 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Battleship for Freedonia
Replies: 26
Views: 4450

Re: Battleship for Freedonia

The weakness of the German scheme is that the area of armoured deck (and the length of the citadel) is increased, so the total thickness has to be reduced. Thus South Dakota has a 1.5" weather deck and a 5" on 1" main deck with 5/8" splinter armour below for a total of 8.125" (over 205 mm) over all...
by Dave Saxton
Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Scharnhorst w/ 38cm's and other improvements
Replies: 9
Views: 887

Re: Scharnhorst w/ 38cm's and other improvements

The belt thickness was further reduced in the H class to 300mm but with a deeper belt and increased thickness of the slopes. It increased the overall protection because the slope thickness is more important than belt thickness in this type of protection scheme. This was an improvement of the design ...