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by Thorsten Wahl
Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:40 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack ?
Replies: 78
Views: 16966

Re: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack

Iowa 127mm ~ 12-18 rpm Oerlikon 20mm ~ 250-320 rpm Bofors 40mm ~ 120 rpm TOTAL: 18 x 20 + 49 x 320 + 80 x 120 = 25640 shells/minute Did you have an idea about how many shells these ships carried. BTW german outfit for 20mm Bismarck 1941 carries ~44.000 shells for 20mm Tirpitz 1944 carries ~138.000 ...
by Thorsten Wahl
Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:30 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Steamturbine engines!
Replies: 11
Views: 15212

Re: Steamturbine engines!

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wich unit of measurement?
by Thorsten Wahl
Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:33 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers
Replies: 67
Views: 27390

Re: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers

Ther is also a photo of Hipper in Marinearsenal Spezial Band 6 "Die Panzerung der deutschen Kriegsschiffe 1920 - 1945" page 18
english translation
http://www.kbismarck.com/articles.html
by Thorsten Wahl
Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:59 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers
Replies: 67
Views: 27390

Re: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers

Unterlagen zur Bestimmung der Hauptkampfentfernung did not mention other belt thicknes then 80mm.

in other cases special features (increased thicknesses) were usually mentioned.
by Thorsten Wahl
Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:30 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

:oops: thanks for the hints Thorsten Wahl wrote: this figure is really interesting as Bismarcks(calculated) construction speed at construction shp (115,500 shp) was also 27,5 kn / 28 kn (Akte Allgemeine Konstruktionsunterlagen Überwasserschiffe available at the Marinearchiv Freiburg) displacement ac...
by Thorsten Wahl
Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:43 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

Howe ran trials with 27.5 knots at 112,930 shp (114,496 mhp this figure is really interesting as Bismarcks(calculated) construction speed at construction shp (115,500 shp) was also 27,5 kn / 28 kn (Akte Allgemeine Konstruktionsunterlagen Überwasserschiffe available at the Marinearchiv Freiburg) dis...
by Thorsten Wahl
Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:05 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

as 7,700 m³ were approx 6,468 metric ton
s

this 6468 t almost exactly fits the

3226t+3226t =6452 t fuel oil mentioned in the weight calculation of Bismarck

it seems the 1009 t resp ~2000t Ölsonderzuladung was unconsidered in this calculation.
by Thorsten Wahl
Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:28 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

Marc does the primary source has a document name and date? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charts doesnt consider varying quantities of fuel and different calorific valus of fuel) Bismarck at 28 knots consumption...
by Thorsten Wahl
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:17 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

dunmunro wrote: Where did you get the data for Howe?
From the piece you posted at the ship model forum
by Thorsten Wahl
Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:05 pm
Forum: Naval History (1922-1945)
Topic: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers
Replies: 67
Views: 27390

Re: Armor of the Admiral Hipper class cruisers

Hipper class had no external belt. The belt was hidden under the bulge of the "äußerer Wallgang"
by Thorsten Wahl
Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:33 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

additional Iowa and KGV class (howe)

seem the US ships show relatively better performance within part load (Teillastbereich)
(Charts doesnt consider varying quantities of fuel and different calorific valus of fuel)
by Thorsten Wahl
Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:37 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

for comparison
velocity range chart for North Carolina according Data from the above link in post 1
and Bismarck chart from data points at ~17kn??, 21 und 28

fuel capacity of NC was 1,879,751 gallons wich is 7,115m³
by Thorsten Wahl
Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:30 pm
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

Thank you both for the comments and Marc also for the additional explantion of the 19,2% dockjard times at navweaps. in general the fuelconsumption doesnt seem that much worse as it often is described. And one has to be carefully comparing different types of fuel(heavy fuel oil - light fuel oil) and...
by Thorsten Wahl
Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:58 am
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

MDV 601... mentions 17 knots in the text(but not as average). Using a graphical solution compared to usual range/velocity charts, less then 17kn seem inplausible to me Maybe possible speed could be 18 knots or more. But I decide to choose the lower speed as "worst case". If the 300m³/day o...
by Thorsten Wahl
Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:39 am
Forum: Naval Propulsion
Topic: Fuel consumption Bismarck
Replies: 74
Views: 62639

Re: Fuel consumption Bismarck

yes the data were estimates from Group West, based on fuel consumption graphs/calculations, on wich I assume they had access german ships use light fuel oil - density approx 0,82-0,86 metric tons per m³ so 7,700 m³ ~ 6,468 metric tons calculation endurance/range 17 kn ---> 408 seamiles per day 300m³...