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Thank you Herr Nilsson, but I prefer to see this as one speculative interpretation, e.g. far from being strong evidence. There is nothing wrong with being in the realm of speculation (which might or might not be a correct guess of reality), one just has to be aware of the differences between evidenc...

Apart from multiple other criteria: The dawn engagement was at extreme range, but Bismarck fires her secondaries in this picture. It's very safe to say NH 69730 is from the Denmark Strait Battle. How can you interpret this picture such that the secondary armament was fired? In my view, the only sol...

a) Based on your own battlemap (http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/download/file.php?id=3593) and assuming (as logical) that you have considered it as being the most accurate possible one, and the one that give to readers the best possible overview of the battle development (having signed and published...

Lutjens was not such a commander, merely a unsympathetic automaton incapable of thinking beyond Well, I think it is very easy (and wrong) to judge persons based on their actions 80 years later, when we have little to no knownledge about the situation (and the persons themselves). In particular, if ...

Mr. Virtuani: Please read some of the previous posts. If you do so, you will note that it was primarily Wadinga's commentary that was deleted/modifed, not your own, and that he was the one who was cautioned, not yourself. Bill Jurens. "Wie der Schelm denkt, so ist er." (my german-speaking...

However getting 2000 men transferred in gale force conditions in the North Atlantic would be no mean feat. And you would have to get Donitz' U-boats and the Luftwaffe to play nicely as well. wadinga You are of course right here. And with hindsight, I think it can be stated that the British commande...

For what’s its worth I agree. If the people on the spot (who knew their ship inside out) recognised that they were effectively finished then they were finished. What a bloody awful way to go though. Hours of waiting with the knowledge that the odds of individual survival was very small. Perhaps a m...

Mr Virtuani, Here is my suggestion. If you believe that this map issue is of such importance, hire an attorney or file a plea with the United Nations. Just, whatever you decide to do, PLEASE stop filling the forum with your endlessly repetitive diatribes. I don't know how others here feel, but I am...

I trust that most of the readership will understand and -- if perhaps only reluctantly -- agree with this action. Should disagreement occur, and should that be of sufficient magnitude to justify commentary, I would not be adverse to someone beginning a thread in which we can discuss -- without refe...

Dunmunro, I think you see too much. Anyway, let's move to question #3 . Do you agree that the film sequence of Bismarck firing included in the PG battle film was taken at a later period of time than the photo shown in question #2 ? YES NO I have to say no, I cannot agree, because we have no reliabl...

Hi all. I rescaled by 4X the image of the supposed first salvo: http://www.sfu.ca/~dmunro/images/Salvo1a?.jpg http://www.sfu.ca/~dmunro/images/Salvo1a?.jpg and circled the shadows. The thing is that the sun would be low in the upper right hand corner of the image, assuming a course of 220d at ~0553...

I think it would be better to formulate that question in a timing context, e.g. if ship X fired at time Y, do you think that the relative time difference of PE opening fire was Z minutes (wheer Z can be either negative or positive)? If you want to use Hood's open fire time at ~0552:30 as Dunmunro j...

Question #1. Do you agree that the Prinz Eugen opened fire at 0555 hours? Yes No Why? (Optional) 5:55 in which clock system (german/british/which ship)? I think it would be better to formulate that question in a timing context, e.g. if ship X fired at time Y, do you think that the relative time dif...

Does anyone have any thoughts as to where we might go from here? B Nowhere. As mentioned so many times before, the only constructive way forward is to avoid to get into religious discussions like this and don't open the door for missionaries. You have rightfully drawn a comparison to the disagreeme...

What puzzles me no end is why it is so important that Prince of Wales be portrayed as having delivered a top notch, first-class gunnery performance on 24 May. B Well, I guess your question is a rhetoric one. This whole new thematic subset which might be summarized as "RoF speculations" or...