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Hi Marti:

Please contact me by e-mail, and I will give you some very good information of drag that is from my teacher. Drop me a line at GHE101@aol.com

George Elder

Hi Marty: The problem wasn't even fully quantified untill 1944 firing trials, although one suspects that adjustments were made to the firing tables earlier that were based on observations. The cam fix wasn't made untill late 1945, and it isn't that simple a procedure. This is just an example of how ...

Weight, diameter, "wobble" and air density all play roles. The range tables also have to consider such nicities as proplellent temperature, etc., and thus it was very easy to make mistakes on the tables. We were tracing down faults in the US range tables for the 16"/45 and 16"/50...

... supect this might be the case? With regard to intelligence as it relates to shell weights and initial MVs, these data were published in Brassey's and other journals, and most of the data is fairly reliable. Indeed, even in the 1920s they were putting in cross-sectional diagrams of some shells, e...

Hi Ulrich: When I received the document there was no understanding of exclusivity, and the translations you did and that I edited were a bit more elborate than that of the US version. Indeed, you edited sections that went beyound the potted rendition. As far as I am concerned, there is no problem, a...

Before anything is concluded, let us see the FINAL reconstruction of Rob's map. Indeed, I'll await the final edit before making any opinion. This seems like the best way to proceed. As for standard German operating procedures in this tactical situation, what the heck are these? I've never read anyth...

Hi Rob: It seems most unlikily that shielding the PE would have been at all in the Bismarck's interest before the Hood was sunk and especially after it was sunk. In the former case, preserving the Bismarck's potential while the range rapidly closed is a function of shells fired at him per unit of ti...

... for the loss of one so dear. People keep telling me that such things get better with time, although I am not quite sure I believe it. But it seems that you are becoming involved again, and that is a good thing. My problem with this course exercise is that if we do the graphics, in Rob's proposal...

Well, anywhere you hit a sub with a penetrating hit is a very bad thing. If the saddle tanks get ruptured, the sub cannot surface. If the internal hull is breached, you drown rather than suffocate. As for the small size of the torpedo, this allows them to be carried by a wide array of aircraft and s...

Hi Rob: You note: Antonio then has the Bismarck crossing the wake of the Prinz Eugen at 0603, sailing out several hundred yards to starboard of the Prinz Eugen, and swinging in a wide arc behind the Prtinz Eugen, leaving the cruiser exposed to heavy enemy gunfire in direct violation of German naval ...

Well, that would explain the limited need for an elongated jet and relatively small size.

George

....to modify the map Antonio made to best represent your position. Then we can compare and contrast. This seems like a reasonable way to proceed.

George

... and it would indeed be interesting to compare it with the German warhead in terms of probgable jet elongation. Can you post the German diagram?

George

Hi Rob: I think you would be well served by modifying the map Antonio made to best represent your position. It seems to me that this current exercise would do more to get at the heart of things than all the rehashing of the past. As for my view on how Antonio resolved the order from Bismarck to PE t...

The USA, Germans, and others focussed of developeing a torpedo that would focus its explosive force into the innards of the target vs creating a general explosion that would vent much of its force upwards against the lesser resistance of the water's surface. There was considerable study of the Monro...