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by alecsandros
Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:20 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Problem is that Leach's justification is centered upon Hood's loss. The 3 points of the justification (a, b, c) are tied (in his report) to Hood's demise.
a and b , according to his own report, were manifest before the action started; c was the only one somewhat tied to future events.
by alecsandros
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:30 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

The only one who really knows what was going on in Leach's mind during the engagement was Leach himself, who is of course now long dead and who -- for obvious reasons -- might have become somewhat distracted during this portion of the engagement itself, and may never have retained a fully clear pic...
by alecsandros
Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:21 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

POW was in close formation with Hood before her immolation.she skirts round Hoods wreckage and ends up around 14000 yards (?) from her foes. That range seems very short to me (indeed almost Jutlandesque). The Y turret jams at 06:05(?), could not have been the case that Leach initially wanted the op...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Alberto asked a very simple question,
all of you have a simple answer to give: did you produce your own version of the battle map, that reconciliates the available FACTS ? Yes or No.

What you are trying to do is to answer "No, but neither has Antonio". Only that Antonio already did...

:pray:
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

This is not what is meant by "putting information in context". It depends who reads the information and if the said information is really information for him or only data. If somebody gives me a book in Chinese, I can't understand it, it's only data to me. If somebody gives the same book to me , tr...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Herr Nilsson wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:48 pm
It‘s measured in the real world, it makes it possible to compare different cars, but driving a car is much more complex.
Yes, and real world gas consumption is almost always larger then the one measured in controlled conditions. Wouldn't you agree ?
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Demanding binary answers is not often the way to move a complex debate forward to a successful conclusion. In fact, it's usually counterproductive. Hope this helps... Bill Jurens It would have helped IF you wouldn't have passed over the obvious relevant passages from PoW's gunnery report, that expl...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Herr Nilsson wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:40 pm
Are fuel economy standards useless? Certainly not. But no one of us is driving only 100 km/h and no other speed.
In that case, they have alot to do with the real world, don't you think ?
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Herr Nilsson wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:39 pm
@Alecsandros
But that are artificial created values from a standardized quality test. They have nothing to do with the real world.
Then the test has been useless ?
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

10. This point is just about the accurracy not reliability. De facto it was accurate enough to hit. That can be said about any weapon system , no matter how bad or how good. When you have errors of 9/16 of a degree (0,5625 degrees - more then half a degree) on the 38cm guns, you have an error of 50...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Reading the AVKS again I'm not sure what you mean. What problems? Reading the AVKS again I'm not sure what you mean. What problems? AVKS: A. Sea target naval artillery. 38cm turrets 6. Elevation machinery [...] This design severely impedes alignment operations. [...] In view of the alignment operat...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:13 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 55
Views: 877

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

Thank you for a most interesting scenario, the only thing I have a question about is the serious damage to Norfolk/Belfast/Sheffield, surely three cruisers are not going to attempt to engage a ship like Titpitz, after all, Norfolk and Suffolk had a lucky escape from Bismarck and to pitch 1x8"" and ...
by alecsandros
Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Brinkmann stated that Bismarck fired before PE. Your own analysis shows that Bismarck's salvo would fall well before PE's. The probability is that Bismarck has actually fired more than one salvo prior to PE opening fire. Bismarck's waterspouts would have obscured Prinz Eugen's waterspouts for a lon...
by alecsandros
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Replies: 968
Views: 51759

Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS

Even in your "enhanced" ingenious version, the junior ship has to fire before the Flagship . Very bad etiquette. Also unlikely given the command chain and order transmission. I did not make an enhanced version of anything. You asked a question about Jasper seeing his own shots "obscured". I simply ...
by alecsandros
Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:05 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Anson and Tirpitz
Replies: 55
Views: 877

Re: Anson and Tirpitz

* Nobody knows for sure what has happened, but as pointed out by other analysis, a hit from DoY at that time with exactly that impact would be VERY lucky. Scharnhorst's high-pressure boilers were known to break up at extreme load, weren't they? They were, and nearly got her into the jaws of the Roy...