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by alecsandros
Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:31 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
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Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

... I propose to base all German firings on British observation and timings, and all British firings on German observation and timings. :cool:
by alecsandros
Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:20 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

... 5:55:xx German time, probably 3 minutes after Hood opening fire, is the most reliable milestone for Bismarck opening fire.
by alecsandros
Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:13 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Convoy WS8B - Relevance to Bismarck
Replies: 32
Views: 11968

Re: Convoy WS8B - Relevance to Bismarck

Most interesting, Certainly the Admiralty was very concerned after losing Bismarck on the night of May 24/25th, especialy as there were no certain informations about her amount of damage and fighting efficiency. Also, they couldn't have known the intentions and potential actions that even a gravely ...
by alecsandros
Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:30 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Convoy WS8B - Relevance to Bismarck
Replies: 32
Views: 11968

Re: Convoy WS8B - Relevance to Bismarck

Hello Antonio ! Very interesting story about the convoy due south, didn't know that. However, given the state of affairs on board BIsmarck on May 25th, don't you think it was unlikely for Luetjens to willfully engage enemy escorting ships ? Wouldn't it have been more likely for him to alter course a...
by alecsandros
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:01 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Which brings me back to an older discussion: how nice it would be to see the entire (not cut) Prinz Eugen movie... For sure it has more battle footage...

Best,
by alecsandros
Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Hello Alberto, I see what you mean, that the future course of PoW was unknowable to Bismarck's officers. Of course it's true, what I'm trying to say is that , given the range , angle of fall , dispersion, and the actual course of PoW (which was observable until 6:03 through the smoke if I understand...
by alecsandros
Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:28 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Dear Byron, We know Prince of Wales was a difficult target - shrouded in smoke, turning away... My impression (more of an intuition if you like) is that something didn't work like it should on Bismarck and PE... Maybe crew inssuficiently trained, maybe own smoke hindering firing (the wind was blowin...
by alecsandros
Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Gentlemen, Still the fact remains that Bismarck was on a steady course between 6:00:00 and 6:03 or so. She was also free from return fire. Almost like in target practice. How many shots were fired during that interval ? We do not know , but from the film, the minimum possible number must be around 2...
by alecsandros
Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:58 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

1 minute.. I don't know what to say. It coudl be 2... Anyway, there are some projected hit ratios against KGV-type battleship, derived from GKDOS100. At 15km I think they expected 40% hit rate (against broadside target, if salvos are fired perfectly centered on the target), or something like that......
by alecsandros
Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:27 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

So and so. Hood was also a difficult target, at longer range, accute angle, high speed. And very importantly, Bismarck was receiving gunfire while firing on Hood... After 6:00, Bismarck was "free " to unleash on Prince of Wales. The 380mm guns had high velocity, thus the shells had a relatively low ...
by alecsandros
Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:32 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

hello Alberto, Still I need to point out the following: - range of firing against Prince of WAles was around 14km for 3 minutes, and rate of fire was high. It is probable (and if we take the film at face value) that Bismarck consumed the same amount of shells against Prince of Wales in 1.5 --- 2 min...
by alecsandros
Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

I am abit more skeptical on to the positions of the Bismarck relative to Prinz Eugen, and of Prince of Wales relative to Hood. We have essentialy no validated bearings between those pairs of ships in the critical minutes of action, and thus no precise way of identifiying the possibilities of hits/sa...
by alecsandros
Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:49 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Yes, I see what you mean, you're right.... But what if PoW was in the process of "overtaking" Hood's wreckage , and she became a collateral victim ? I.e., she wasn't "straddled" by the salvo fired by Bismarck, but got hit by it... The same way Bismarck's salvo no3 probably didn't straddle Hood, but ...
by alecsandros
Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:55 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

Basically, even if Schneider saw Hood exploding and stopping, why should he have fired another salvo to her ? If he did not, then an additional salvo would have been fired at Hood future position, not at her actual one. Bye, Alberto I have been thinking about that aspect for alot of time... As alwa...
by alecsandros
Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...
Replies: 589
Views: 28351

Re: Jasper, Schmalenbach and 6 salvos...

f sight). She is however much closer than in photo NH69724. In any case a salvo fired at Hood after the "fatal" one would have landed much ahead of PoW , on the Hood future position (I have added a shape in the red rectangle to "simulate" how Hood would have appeared at 6:00:48 without the explosio...