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Hello Cag, In case you didn't spot it here is the last time we discussed the Bridge Hit in detail with excellent plans provided by Alberto. http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6276&start=105 You raised a question about closed A arcs in PoW and I posted this on page 68 of the m...

Herr Nilsson,

Amen to that

All the best

wadinga

Hello Antonio, Duncan is of course correct to emphasise the errors inherent. Firstly, I placed the Norfolk track on the grid with a good enough reference to PoW. Since the trigonometrical baseline between Norfolk and PoW is so narrow, an error of a mile or so up or down the track of the former will ...

Hello Antonio and all, Firstly Season's greetings to all. :D I hope your friend will not be insulted if I suggest you exchange your B & H for a house brick or a door wedge as either will do a better job at say, holding papers down or keeping a door open. Paul is correct, this book is riddled wit...

Hello Antonio, Thank you for another rendition of your preferred scenario, again showing Suffolk closing to a little more than 10 miles from Norfolk which several contributors consider is unlkely since the two ships remained invisble to one another. Interestingly the rendered course for Suffolk in y...

Indeed Beltsman, Just like Scharnhorst's own crew left Glorious', Ardent's and Acasta's crews to met a terrible fate as well, left to drown/freeze/ There is no "duty of care" towards your enemies in Total War. When any survivors were picked up by the victors it reflects well on them in ris...

Hi Frontkampfer, After some fascinating research I concur. It would appear the harpooning and back off approach was abandoned and the impact detonation charge was simply stuck on the end of a iron pole. How the crew could imagine that they would not go up with the target or even get dragged down by ...

Hi Frontkamper, If the charge actually went off on impact 20ft away, Hunley would have been the first Kaiten and America could claim to have invented the Kamikaze nearly a hundred years before the Japanese! :D From The Friends of Hunley website http://hunley.org/main_index.asp?CONTENT=MISSION The me...

All, By my reckoning CSS Hunley killed 21 Confederate and 5 Union sailors. But it was the first successful attack submarine. Its explosive charge was detonated by the tether, when Hunley had backed off enough not to get blown up by the Spar torpedo jammed in the enemy's hull. The term "Torpedo&...

All, Once again a mighty thank-you to Antonio for outstanding generosity in providing a version of the Plan 13 Action Plan with superimposed Cartographic Grid. All that is essential to establish whether the relative positions of the cruisers to PoW is based solely on their reported positions and cou...

Hello All, Now we can all look at part of PoW's action plot we can examine the PoW recorded D/F bearings. The D/F bearings on Suffolk throw up some interesting points. The 02:39 bearing intersects PoW's track at a point which corresponds to that time, but the 02:52 apparently doesn't. Why not? :? Th...

Hi Cag,

Yes this site https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/dms-decimal has a converter which confirms this.

I am correlating the radio positions from Duncan's Admiralty sheet with the positions recorded on PoW's action plot

All the best

wadinga

All,

I believe the Hunley had killed previous crews before the last one.

However this discussion should be in Ironclads and not in Battleship Bismarck.

All the best

wadinga

Hi All But particularly Antonio, I would like to record my genuine admiration for Antonio in posting more vital original material. :clap: :clap: :clap: Despite our differences of interpretation, I have always been impressed by his generosity in so doing, and I hope he does indeed feel that a meeting...

Hello Antonio, There are no bearings on the Norfolk strategical map. There are no bearings recorded in W-W's narrative or the ship's log. There are two impossible triangles for Suffolk's position with no explanation of their origin. You have derived a/some bearings and decided they are important. If...