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Ciao Bob and all, OK, I am glad you choose not to withdraw and stop this thread and did provide your current position on the matter. For this I applaud you showing fairness. Now I got the precise responses I was looking for to update your map. Those are : 1) 900 -1000 yards ( 900x0,914=822 meters or...

Ciao all, of course I add myself on the symphaty to Bill Garzke for what happened to him,.. I soffered a very similar thing last autumn too and I know the feeling :( . I think that from my side I cannot do anything more than what I am currently doing to help with a good '' scholar '' educated approa...

Ciao Bob, George and all, Ok now I see we can start adding some value to the discussion. No more ''attacks'' old style ! AGREED ! We will exchange our opinions on the key facts and provide evidences to support either case and at the end I expect that a reasonable agreement can be hopefully reached a...

Ciao Bob, George and all, well I agree with George on this one. You Bob better study and correlate the 2 maps I have sent you ( one with your theory translated into a detailed map and my one made on same style so 100 % comparable very easily ) before restarting a discussion that we already made seve...

Ciao George, Bob and all, Thanks ! The credit for this goes to Bill Jurens and George Elder for the suggestion to do it with all the details needed clearly explained. As I wrote recently I was offering to Bob ( Mr. Winklareth ) all the support he needed to understand with me privately all the differ...

Ciao Bill, George and all,

I will help Bob, .... no problems for me


Ciao Antonio

Ciao George and all, differently than you I do care about everybody opinion. First of all the one of the person I rate competent guys on this Naval community, than everbody else including the ones that maybe disagree with me, .. I care especially about the newcomers and the unexperienced ones, .. th...

Ciao George and all, sorry but I disagree with you about this : Neither you nor Antonio has yet gathered the material that is needed to make many firm judgments, and thus I will not draw any conclusions. You can avoid to take your own conclusions yet and this is OK to me, this call of course is base...

Ciao George and all, I am really surprised from you request George :shock: : One point he ( Mr. Winklareth ) keeps bringing up is: "When I challenged Antonio to reconcile the order for the Prinz Eugen not to fire over the Bismarck with his claim that the Bismarck was on the starboard side of th...

Ciao George, Randy and all, to George, of course I do know that now it is up to Mr Winklareth to explain in clear details his position about this initial part of the battle. Lets see if this time you will be able to get a satisfactory response and mostly having him accepting the evidences. What ever...

Ciao George and all, here you can find some references on the initial Nh 69722 photo ( Bismarck first salvo to Hood ) distance estimations : http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h69000/h69722.jpg http://www.bismarck-class.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=678&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=9...

Ciao all, just few addittional things from my side : to Randy : 1) No matter which speed you choose for Bismarck the initial first salvo photo of Bismarck that shows her between 1800 and 2500 meters back on Prinz Eugen wake ( we will see later the correct estimation ) clearly makes impossible Mr. Wi...

Ciao George and all,

I have several e-mails.

Anyway, here is my personal official one :

Antonio_Bonomi@Virgilio.it

and it is always attached on the closure of all my post on all forum's were I write, no problems, you can write me there.

Ciao Antonio

Ciao George, Randy, Ian, Foeth and all, well I am glad to see that my Bismarck speed calculation exercise was of interests for you guys. If we concentrate and leverage on everybody skill and knowledge that we can really move things forward :D . I will not comment on the error margin or tolerances th...

Ciao Randy and all, thanks for your explanation of the idioms Randy, ... now at least I got some positive things out of that incident. YES, definitively this reversing '' fashion'' and '' intention to make a scoop '' or to maintain a supposed one is creating too many problems and I can easily unders...