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- Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:13 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
- Replies: 967
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Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Hello All, Lets try something not too contentious.............................. :D And related directly to Bismarck firing. Bundesarchiv 146-1990-61-27 shows Bismarck racing directly towards PG's beam at approximately 90 degrees course difference at only a few hundred metres distance. This is so exc...
- Sun Feb 28, 2016 4:56 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
- Replies: 967
- Views: 131090
Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Hello Alecsandros, why oh why did the Bismarck expend so few shells as reported by Luetjens to Group North...? because as you have already deduced Antonio's map, and photo identification and timetable are flawed :shock: This The film is probably showing "battle time" around 6:02 - 6:03, af...
- Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:21 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Cover up synopsis
- Replies: 623
- Views: 67086
Re: Cover up synopsis
Hello Antonio I accept I overlooked the tiny mark on the salvo plot, (mea culpa) but as Duncan observes it says nothing about when actual shots were fired and is a general indication and does not identify a particular splash as being anything to do with them. Given that PoW was heeling heavily to st...
- Sat Feb 27, 2016 4:09 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Cover up synopsis
- Replies: 623
- Views: 67086
Re: Cover up synopsis
Hello Antonio, I asked when/where on the Gefechtskizze and therefore on your map You are right, Prinz Eugen stern was directly pointed at Bismarck target, and the answer is - nowhere. :shock: In fact on the Gefechtskizze the only manouevre which resembles the classical 90 degree turnaway to comb tor...
- Sat Feb 27, 2016 1:30 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Cover up synopsis
- Replies: 623
- Views: 67086
Re: Cover up synopsis
Hello Antonio, You have said I have asked you a precise question days ago about the 06.03 and 45 seconds timing correlation with PoW GAR gunnery map local salvo 20th landing and the Prinz Eugen battle map first turn. I can't read the timing on the "Gefechtskizze" but I see you have done sk...
- Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:42 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Cover up synopsis
- Replies: 623
- Views: 67086
Re: Cover up synopsis
Hello Alberto, You have said Antonio reconstruction can have some defects and still needs corrections, no doubts about that and the problem is using this highly defective construction to hang a Giant Conspiracy Theory on. Exposure of the many defects over 2 years, and as even Alecsandros is currentl...
- Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:45 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
- Replies: 967
- Views: 131090
Re: Bismarck firing procedures at DS
Hello Alecsandros, You say Another that I am thinking right now would be that Bismarck was doing course alterations to confuse Prince of Wales gunnery Witnesses like Roncza might report course changes, by would they know the motive? You will notice there are many different charts showing German trac...
- Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:31 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Hood Gunnery on May 24
- Replies: 108
- Views: 30038
Re: Hood Gunnery on May 24
Hi All Paul is undoubtedly right. PG and Bismarck were too far apart to be seen simultaneously in a single optical device That is because he remembers reading what witnesses who were there saw, rather than any realisations (even lovely images) that have been created recently. Geoffrey Brooke says &q...
- Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:37 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hi Steve, Agree to that. :ok: Even the switched targets point is unknown. After Hood blew up for sure but how soon? Nobody records that one 15" salvo blew up Hood and the very next hit PoW or how long after. The Fire control solution was easier as the two ships were close together, but that doe...
- Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:00 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hello Alberto, You say fired after 6:03 with both fore and aft turrets firing Oops my error I should have said 06:05 :oops: but your 14 minutes includes 06:05 to 06:09 when even Antonio says Bismarck was only firing 4 shells during each minute. :angel: You say The comparison is based on the only pro...
- Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:45 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hello Alberto, Sorry, I sometimes get you guys mixed up. :oops: However your analysis is still fatally flawed. You have used the four gun salvoes fired only by C & D turrets after 06:03 to lower Bismarck's value over 14 minutes . If you still accept that Bismarck fired 40 shots (less 1 or 2 of t...
- Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:46 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hello Alecsandros, Once again you have executed an apparent statistical coup however................. I thought you had already accepted Bismarck fired considerably more shells than PoW per minute. PoW fires 6 rounds in minute 53 4 in minute 54 5 in 55 5 in 56 4 in 57 7 in 58 6 in 59 11 in 00 :shock...
- Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:33 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hello Antonio, The test of impartiality and a just decision must surely be the ability to persuade new unbiased people to become adherents to one's point of view. :think: Yet a succession of new parties have been subjected to the detail of the Denmark Straits conspiracy theory, considered it and not...
- Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:09 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hello Cag, Welcome to The Defence. Although you have laboured mightily to avoid being sucked into the gravity well of our long-standing argument, it stretches over several threads and years and has generated many unfortunate tensions amongst those who comprise the Denmark Straits Study Group. You ha...
- Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:33 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
- Replies: 462
- Views: 49478
Re: Tirpitz sails on part of Rheinubung
Hi Alecsandros and Alberto, For the 7 missed shots by Bismarck, one happened before Hood blew up. Because the the Baron says" Then I heard Schneider again: Wow, was that a misfire? That really ate into him." The him would be Schneider and his annoyance was that one of the guns had misfired...