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Hello Thorsten, I have a couple of questions. I hope you don't mind. armor penetration at 20 kyard~18,2 km vertical 448 mm vs 442 mm horizontal nominally 109 mm vs <80 mm (the problem US vertical penetration was an estimate calculated with US-empirical -Thompson F formula ( Buord Sk. 78841)) this fo...

At the position of turret Anton the minimum distance of the TDS to the barbettes is only 3 m. How would you rate this "weakness"?
How were other battleships protected against torpedoes in this area?

2) What appears to be a flaw, actually isn't a flaw, and our negative interpretation of this feature resides in our incomplete or incorrect understanding of the full situation. I think 2) is possible. This kind of "gap" already existed on the large cruisers of the Mackensen-class and the ...

Yes, Herr Nilsson.
That's the one!
At least the same spot is meant.

Hope that works.

Hello, I read this in an internet group about dreadnoughts: The guy firmly believed that the TDS of Bismarck is practically non-existent. no system of underwater protection was provided in bismarck apart from that afforded by an outside air space (between the skin plating and the wing oil-fuel tanks...

Bismarck had guns with comparably small maximum range, Was that a disadvantage? What was the thought behind it?

Thank you, Hans. I will take a look asap.

Thanks for the answers.

Reading the comparison between the Bismarck and Richelieu designs the German engineers seemed to be a bit astonished about the configuration and location of the Rich's MA guns, which enabled her to fire a 9 x 152 mm gun broadside with three triple turrets compared to the Bis' 6 x 150 mm with three t...

Would that be okay if I share this in/on another group/forum?
I better ask for permission first.

Thanks.

With the Bismarck class the distance of the turret Anton's barbette to the outer hull (torpedo bulkhead?) was only 3 m minimum which was said to be a major hazard in case of underwater hits. I wonder how that was with other battleship classes which in general had triple or quad turrets and thus barb...

Scharnhorst official drawing RM 20/1913 Allgemeine Typfragen für Schlachtschiffe, Panzerschiffe und Kreuzer 10.02.1939-11.12.1939 Scharnhorst - Gneisenau" Gewichte abgerundete und zwischen beiden Schiffen gemittelte Zahlen. B.Nr. A V 309 /39 Gkdos vom 3./5. Mai 1939 Panzerdicken Scharnhorst2.j...

BWOC, post war trials on Rodney showed that a 2000lb AP bomb had to be dropped above 5000ft to penetrate her Main Armoured Deck, which was much thicker (6in versus 4in) than Tirpitz's MAD and Rodney's magazines were two decks below the MAD and had a 1.5in splinter deck directly above them. You don'...