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Ciao all, now this discussion is becoming really interesting. So far we have hopefully clarified Bismarck real capabilities during her trials on November 1940 ( ref. Breyer_Koop, Von Mullenheim-Rechberg and Groner books). Now I think we can reduce the discussion to the Denmark Strait ship performanc...

Ciao Vic and all, the Denmark Strait photos are all correct and historically represent our references. If you want to try to disqualify them, find the original negatives and show us the modifications occurred. You should avoid to mention this when is good for you to say so as you are cornered to the...

Ciao Dunmunro and all, very acute observations, but lets use Gneisenau engines, because Scharnhorst ones were very unreliable under pressure, and at North Cape probably costed him to be sunk. Hood was an older ship with British type engines, German ones were different and Bismarck had last level tec...

Ciao Bgile and all, the battle into Denmark Strait is divided into 2 clearly separated segments for German ships : 1 ) The engagement until German ships turned away from 05.55 ( German ships opened fire ) until 06.03 and 45 seconds when German squadron turned away to starboard due to torpedo alarm i...

Ciao all, you are absolutely right, but we do know what Admiral Lutjens did on a very crucial moment. Being intercepted and with his escorting cruiser in-line ahead around 2.500 meters searching with is only working radar the sea in front of the German squadron, he did not slow him down and placed h...

Ciao all, I have spent few minutes to look were I could find some confirmations about Bismarck top speed. From “ Battleship Bismarck “ book written by the Baron Burkhard Von Mullenheim-Rechberg ( on my Italian version translated by E. Bagnasco ) at page 58 he wrote : “Speed trials continued for all ...

Ciao all, I see that neither Prinz Eugen war diary entry nor HMS Suffolk speed report are "sufficient" to convince you that Bismarck was sailing when needed at 30 knots or a bit more in the morning of May 24th, 1941. But she did close her distance to Prinz Eugen from her first salvo showed...

Ciao all, @ Ulrich surely on the morning on May 24th, 1941 at 00.08 Prinz Eugen was ordered to sail at 30 knots and Bismarck was following on her wake, so one must assume she was sailing same speed as well. Ref PG KTB on May 24th, 1941 at 00.08 : " Auf 30 sm gegangen " ( went to 30 knots )...

Ciao all, just to keep everybody on same level of infos. http://www.hmshood.org.uk/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16&p=309#p309 Here following the measurements I took on my TV screen with a standard ruler on the 3 moments separated by 3 seconds as explained. D1 is Bismarck shadow D2 is dis...

Ciao all,

here some inputs,.... if you want to play with it as well....

http://www.hmshood.org.uk/forum/phpBB3/ ... 6&start=10


Happy 2009 Antonio

Ciao all, thanking some new evidences recently surfaced we have now more elements about Bismarck Fliegersichtzeichen. Referencing what was done on Prinz Eugen swastika banners we can see that they used covers during the Norway short stop. Surely on Prinz Eugen after the Norway stop they painted the ...

Ciao all, according to many witnesses and reports we have discovered recently and referencing Matrose Maus report, Bismarck tops on main turrets were re-painted on yellow approcahing France, just as KM Op. Rheinubung documents required. They did not make it on the secondary 150 mm turrets due to dan...

HI Dave and all, according to survivor Heinrich Kuhnt, when Bismarck sunk she first turned with all 3 propellers still slowly running and the 2 rudder blades did not show any visible damage. Kuhnt was swinning close as 50-100 meters away and looked carefully backwards, as he wanted to try to realize...

Ciao all, I think I am one of the most interested person on knowing more about Admiral Gunther Lutjens as well as on Kpt Harald Netzband. Both those officers according to my personal opinion due deserve a more careful look bout their military careers. It is easy to be on the right side on the right ...

Ciao Modelman66,

I was out in vacation last 15 days,.. welcome on board,.....

Bye Antonio