Herr Nilsson wrote:
"I've lost track. Aside from arguing for the sake of arguing what's the purpose of this discussion at all?"
Amen!
Bill Jurens.
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- Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:12 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
- Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:54 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: British postwar tests on armor
- Replies: 83
- Views: 14202
Re: British postwar tests on armor
H have now had a bit of time to consider the question in more detail. Unfortunately I remain unable to proceed without knowing more about the conditions under which comparison might be made. Mr. Saxton wrote: "Bombs can strike decks at or close to the normal. The normal being striking at a righ...
- Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:23 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
More redactions required. I would again ask that participants refrain from personal 'sniping' and confine themselves to commentary upon the issues at hand.
Bill Jurens
Bill Jurens
- Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:41 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: British postwar tests on armor
- Replies: 83
- Views: 14202
Re: British postwar tests on armor
The situation is complex, but it may take me a day or so to properly elaborate. It would be helpful if those interested might supply fairly specific situations to be explored, as the variations which occur in a general situation are so great as to obscure basic principles. So, one needs to compare s...
- Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:58 am
- Forum: The Wreck of the Bismarck
- Topic: Draining the ocean
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9737
Re: Draining the ocean
Paul Mercer wrote: "Bill, I watched a repeat of a film in which you gave some advice called 'Draining the Ocean' where the hypothetically drained the sea away from Bismarck and showing her having been shot full of holes. I realise that the question of whether sh was sunk or scuttled has been de...
- Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:56 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
Someone wrote a few memos back asking if hull flexibility could have been a contributing factor in the apparent mechanical difficulties with the guns of Prince of Wales at Denmark Strait, and presumably elsewhere as well. Without detailed reports at hand, it is difficult to discuss this coherently, ...
- Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:35 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
I have felt it necessary, once again, to make fairly extensive redactions of material which consists primarily of personal criticism directed at other participants in the group. This has been a somewhat onerous, unpleasant, and often thankless task. I have also received a number of personal messages...
- Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:08 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
Mr. Virtuani wrote: "The person who acquired it (and who had posted spontaneously so many documents here) has unfortunately been forced to leave this (once free) discussion forum." As a moderator, I am concerned about the apparent allegations that an individual has been '...forced to leave...
- Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:02 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Newcomer Seeking Answers
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2409
Re: Newcomer Seeking Answers
jbhistory wrote: "If the turrets were disabled in this manner. Would you lean on this being a defect in Bismarck's design or would you lean more on it being good Gunnery from British Crews?" Neither. I don't think think the Bismarck design was in any significant way superior or inferior to...
- Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:02 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
Regarding Herr Nilsson's letter reference, Alecsandros wrote: I don't understand the final phrase though. The one with honey-combing of compartment. What does it mean ?" I would think the writer is alluding to what he feels must have been extensive internal compartmentation -- presumably on Bis...
- Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:38 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: British postwar tests on armor
- Replies: 83
- Views: 14202
Re: British postwar tests on armor
It is pretty much clear that the resistance of multiple plates in close proximity, or actually touching, will not enhance resistance to penetration except in unusual cases. The main issues to be considered in battleship type design, and this usually revolving around the relative thicknesses of decks...
- Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:25 am
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: Newcomer Seeking Answers
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2409
Re: Newcomer Seeking Answers
I am back with my files now, and beginning the catch-up process. So far as the simultaneous loss of two turrets is concerned, I don't think there is enough real evidence around to come to any definitive conclusion. There are a few anecdotal reports that describe a flash of flame etc. in the vicinity...
- Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:24 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
I remain confused as to why the content of what appears to have been a relatively innocuous and fairly brief document reporting the events of some ordnance testing something like 75 years ago apparently represents such a radioactive subject now -- material that would seem to be of such critical impo...
- Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:25 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
Mr. Bonomi has expressed, in some detail, some of my actions as moderator, and requested explanation. Although some members, e.g. Mr. Bonomi, have chosen to withdraw from the forum, I think it an exaggeration to suggest that they have been “forced” to leave. The record will show that I explicitly in...
- Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:36 pm
- Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
- Topic: PoW readiness for active service
- Replies: 309
- Views: 29727
Re: PoW readiness for active service
I think both sides have had ample opportunity to express their opinions regarding the ethical issues surrounding the release of the Wilkinson report, and the reasons for withholding all or portions thereof. I would suggest further discussion revolve around the content of materials posted rather than...