H.M.S. Rodney damage

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Post by Gerard Heimann » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:39 pm

I believe that it was in Boston. Can't be very many shipyards there that would handle this work.

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Post by lwd » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:53 pm

From the Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Rodney_%2829%29
After this, she went to Boston, Massachusetts, for engine repairs.
For what it's worth.

Here's another site so this time Wiki may have got it right.
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/rodney.htm
But the ship had major structural problems, and after the sinking of the Bismarck went to Boston for repairs, during winter of 1941 to 1942.

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Post by Tiornu » Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:05 pm

Jeez, is that an ugly ship or what?
I looked it up. Boston Navy Yard.

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Post by wadinga » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:23 am

Tiornu,

I can't believe you've only just found out Nelson and Rodney weren't pretty to look at! :wink:

This listing shows how busy Boston Navy Yard was during WWII.
http://www.hazegray.org/shipbuilding/bnsy.htm

The "major structural problems" didn't exist and the refit carried out didn't take long. By September she was annoying the Italians during Operation Halberd (convoy to Malta).

Quote RODNEY left the Clyde for Halifax, arriving on 10th June, and then proceeded to Boston to undergo a refit. This completed on 12th August, and RODNEY sailed to Bermuda. The battleship was then ordered to the Mediterranean to join Force 'H' and arrived at Gibraltar on 24th September. On the 27th a report was received of a strong Italian naval force speeding at 20 knots for a convoy which Force 'H' was escorting through the western end of the Mediterranean. The PRINCE OF WALES, RODNEY, cruisers and destroyers were detached to close the Italians. By 2:25pm the total enemy forces sighted were 2 battleships, 4 cruisers and 16 destroyers, but very soon this enemy force turned and ran for the shelter of Naples. Unquote from http://www.angelfire.com/yt2/WWShips/En ... odney.html


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Post by WestPhilly » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:08 am

Ugly, yes. But they do give a distinct impression of power.

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Post by Tiornu » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:44 am

The power to curdle men's stomachs.

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Post by Gary » Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:35 pm

:lol:

Yep, Nelsol and Rodnol sure wouldnt win any beauty pageants
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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:05 pm

Not being beautifull I don´t find them specially ugly. As a matter of fact if a company brings forth a 1:350 model I will gladly buy it to continue with my RN battleship collection.

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Post by _Derfflinger_ » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:37 pm

"Nels" and "Rod" were kind of like the early VW Beetles - so strange looking that they grow on you.

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Post by Gary » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:50 pm

Still, Nel and Rod are like a pair of heavyweight boxers........its not how pretty they look, its how hard they can hit :cool:
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Post by WestPhilly » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:19 pm

And, hit they could!

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Post by RF » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:34 pm

But not as hard as Yamato.....
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Post by lwd » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:43 pm

That depends a bit on semantics. It's not clear that Yamato managed to hit another warship with her main battery. So yes she could hit the ocean pretty hard but if you are talking hitting opposing warships Rodney clearly did and did considerable damage in the process.

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Post by Karl Heidenreich » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:12 pm

No ship ever built by mankind could hit as hard as Yamato. If we grant the hypothetical superiority of the Iowa Class battleships (that was never put to test against any BB in their whole careers) then, for the same reasons, we must concede that no Battleship ever could shoot so heavy a hit as Yamato. Which amuses me is that ONLY allied Battleships could do things better while Axis ones are just target practice for them... tell that to Lancelot Holland or the crews of Beatty´s battlecruisers at Jutland! :silenced:
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Post by Bgile » Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:19 pm

Karl, why are you so cynical with respect to US Battleships? No, the Iowa class never fought another battleship. But their gunnery has been documented over a period of 50 years. It was routine for them to achieve first round straddles out to their maximum range. Bismarck couldn't do that. Yamato couldn't do that. Why don't you think this is an advantage? I think it's a huge advantage. If you begin hitting your enemy before he can hit you, it can be decisive.

Other US battleships with less advanced FC systems also achieved first round straddles in battle against enemy battleships. At night. Why do you think the fact that the Iowa class, with better equipment, is suspect just because they never fought an enemy battleship?

Why is Bismarck superior because she sank a much older ship with a lucky hit?

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