Hello everybody,
I fully agree with Alberto Vituani above post :
Alberto Virtuani wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:56 am
Hello everybody,
HMSVF wrote: "Yet I never seen the RN supporters use the word “coward” or “timid” about a German officer"
Come on, try at least to be objective and do not play victim role.
They lightly used the word
"Nazi" against German officers who where wearing an uniform and serving their country, without being Nazi at all, unless proven (while the retreat in front of the enemy is well proven and in military terms has only one definition).
In addition,
the RN hooligans have used first the words "idiot", "stupid" and "ignorant" against the ones who were trying to establish the truth about the whole story, without being provoked at all, and now they are cornered without arguments because the timings of NH69731 and of the PG film have been fixed once forever long time ago (2005), despite the obstinate Mr.Wadinga attempts to divert discussion to other photos.
Now the story is clear, in terms of battle map (with the due tolerances and uncertainties), "regrettable aftermath" (disciplinary actions requested against the 2 officers ) and the incontrovertible "cover-up" ( or " sugar-coating " ) in the RN official reports.
Bye, Alberto
When cornered by the surfacing truth, ... those really poor persons, ... instead of fairly keep on discussing on the matters, ... intentionally choose to change their loosing strategy and move on the sarcasm, offenses and personal attacks, ... diverging the discussion as much as possible, ... to mud the water and try to put back in discussion everything possible about this battle, ... even if it was well determined and widely agreed before.
The useless trial to put us on the Nazi side of this debate is by far the most unfair and low profile attitude I have ever seen so far in this forum, ... and I am deeply shocked by the fact that persons that I have rated correct persons in the past are not writing their clear disagreement about such an attitude, ... taking a huge distance from them and their actions, ... and are allowing those persons to list them among their supporters.
This attitude is demonstrating the really poor fairness, ... the fact that once they understood to have lost the fair discussion on going, ... due to the evidence surfacing, ... they had the need to change the approach as it shows, ... and restart discussing about everything back from the beginning with the hope to mud so much the water that the forum occasional new readers will be lost and will not understand anymore what is going on.
What a pathetic loosing attitude this is, ... what a poor type of human being we have here in, ... what a shame, ...
Surely here nobody is afraid about anything, and we will turn back on those persons all the offenses that they will write, with the due interest.
As Alberto stated above, now all is clear and the "novel" is dead, ... nothing will be like before and this battle events have been widely analyzed and correctly correlated one to the other, ... including the aftermath, ... a really regrettable one, ... thanking many book authors especially from the United Kingdom, ... with Stephen Roskill above all of them, ... and the truth about all the aspects has surfaced clearly from the official document still available to be read into the archives.
Bye Antonio
In order to honor a soldier, we have to tell the truth about what happened over there. The whole, hard, cold truth. And until we do that, we dishonor her and every soldier who died, who gave their life for their country. ( Courage Under Fire )