Hello everybody,
@ Steve Crandell,
many thanks for your explanation on the differences between a 8inch shell splash and a 12+ shell splash.
That defines once again, and hopefully for good, what we are looking at on that film frame and photos.
Surely those are 15 and 14inch shells.
@ Alberto,
thanks for your additional confirmation and support on my work.
I agree with you about the way to read and uniquely associate the film sequence showing the last PoW local control salvos 20 and 21 to the Bismarck position after the 06:03 turn to starboard, by simply looking at her course in relation to Prinz Eugen and her forward turrets extreme rotation back/aft to port while firing to PoW. There is no other possibility or time frame possible.
In fact, everybody should know at this point which salvos were fired by PoW after Bismarck turn to starboard, while Prinz Eugen was turning to starboard too at 06:03:45 seconds.
@ Wadinga,
it seems that you are among the ones having a lot of difficulties realizing what I have stated above for PoW local control salvos 20 and 21. I have already demonstrated you this fact here above twice. But, if you like to sustain further more your position and provide me a similar demonstration of your different opinion and your theory, please do so and provide your version and supporting evidence of your hypothesis.
I think we do not need to cover anymore the 8 vs 14/15 inch shell splashes, since this incorrect hypothesis from your side has been already over killed here above ... and when we discussed at first months ago about it.
Please, while still doing your useless defense of Capt Leach actions at any cost, ... trying to deny in any way you can all I am presenting in line of principle even if they are demonstrated being correct with supporting evidence, ... avoid to offend the Officers and sailors of PoW doing with honor, courage and competence their duty, because it is unfair and not respectful, not elegant and not honorable.
I take this chance to remind you that according to G. Brooke book account, it was Capt Leach which felt his duty, after his retreat decision, to explain his Officers and crew the reasons why he did that, and it is not usual in any Royal Navy warship as far as I know, ... and not the opposite.
Aylwin and his Royal Marines on PoW Y turret were just doing their duty, and they did well as far as we can finally realize.
@ Herr Nilsson,
can you please explain us on what you agree with Sean ? Thanks.
I know about that film detail you are talking about, but this do not move away the PoW last local salvos 20th and 21st from where they belong, ... referencing the above explanations.
In case you will succesfully demostrate that being a shell splash, ... which I think is not possible, ... at the most you have to start another additional very difficult demonstration, ... about PoW having fired 5 shells in local control, so 2+1+2 and not 4 like reported 2+1+1 as we can see on our current evidences.
Of course it is up to you to decide if you want to go down that path, ... which I do not support, ... but that will be the only goal possible at the end, ... nothing else.
Bye Antonio
In order to honor a soldier, we have to tell the truth about what happened over there. The whole, hard, cold truth. And until we do that, we dishonor her and every soldier who died, who gave their life for their country. ( Courage Under Fire )