Has anyone tried to provide a logic of those speed changes by Suffolk, especially between 05.20 and 05.42 ?
Errr, I believe it only omitted to mention it, in a two page discussion of the Bismarck Chase.(of course Ellis autobiography categorically denies this turn
At the end, "The Plot" is simply wrong (even for the part concerning JUST the CS1 ships for which surely he had available ALL information, thus leaving just 2 options: 1) intentional modifications of the truth, 2) incompetence of Pinchin.....) and this is the only possible conclusion, that I hope everybody now share in this forum.
Wadinga wrote: "....All information....All information ............Alberto, you are an ex-mariner."
you wrote: "Errr, I believe it only omitted to mention it, in a two page discussion of the Bismarck Chase. "
you wrote: ".....whether or not "The Plot" is incorrect. Of course it's incorrect. The technology of the time simply did not permit more precision than shown....."
you wrote: " There was no need to produce a complete and accurate plot because there were, apparently, no significant problems taking place during the hours leading up to the final action, i.e. the British forces engaged, by whatever means, clearly had been doing their job of shadowing properly."
Alberto Virtuani wrote:
Despite that, he did not respect 3 key bearings between the British cruisers (at 5:36, at 5:41 and at 6:20). As, at that time, bearings were much more reliable than distances, it's not clear at all why he decided to ignore the bearings, instead scrupulously respecting the 15 sm (minimum) distance from both British cruisers to the Bismarck, as declared by Adm Tovey in his dispatch....
Dunmunro wrote: "For all the reasons we've discussed the bearings have very large error bars around them. The bearing suffer from errors in observation and errors due to time of recording."
Alberto Virtuani wrote:Dunmunro wrote: "For all the reasons we've discussed the bearings have very large error bars around them. The bearing suffer from errors in observation and errors due to time of recording."
yes,I know, but much less than distances...... Despite that, he ignored the bearings (and not by 1 or 2 degrees......) and respected the distance declared by Tovey......
Alberto Virtuani wrote:Hi Duncan,
I don't think bearings can be wrong by +/- 5 degrees, when they are corresponding exactly to reciprocal ones, as it's the case with German and British ones or even cross-British ones, as in Antonio's reconstruction.
Still, even assuming your opinion is correct, they are more reliable than distances. Despite that, Pinchin disregarded 3 key bearings while he scrupulously respected the distance declared by Tovey......
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