Hello everybody,
@ Wadinga,
so, we are both extremely disappointed about what is going on here in now.
The “side taken “ approach your are keep on showing here in is now deteriorating on a conduct that cannot be accepted anymore by me.
Either you want to cooperate and fairly share and discuss historical material about this 76 years old battle, otherwise I can avoid even responding to you at all, as I am doing with some other persons that in the recent past showed a similar personal and mental very limited attitude.
It is useless from your side to show me the statements where you mentioned Stephen Roskill on the recent past.
Perfectly knowing who Stephen Roskill was and the content of that book as far as the Court Martial for the Denmark Strait, including his notes content where he refers to other supporting evidence, it should have been your duty to highlight them to me and the readers of this forum, especially after I showed you the similar content of Stephen Roskill book about the Naval Policy that you did not know about.
Instead you kept on hiding this very important content from Stephen Roskill and diverged the attention to Sir Ludovic Kennedy that cannot even try to compare himself with Stephen Roskill as far as source of historical references.
You keep on writing that Stephen Roskill did not believe the Cort Martial story and he took it from Kennedy.
Anyone able to read and understand what Roskill wrote including his notes can easily realize that he not only believed on it, but by referencing to it was clearly conferming it and what Kennedy wrote on page 226 where Kennedy referred to the Court Martial threat story thanking Roskill provided material.
Additionally, by mentioning the Court Martial story into his personal books written after Kennedy book, with clear confirmation and notes about it, Roskill was providing also the material to contradict Kennedy unfair note about it and a possible Adm Tovey unreliability while talking about it later on his life, and this was a point that Stephen Roskill did NOT believe at all about Adm Tovey.
Stephen Roskill beleived the Court Martial story simply because it was a real occurrence, provided his own letters exchanged with Adm Tovey to Kennedy and explained why he did it too and did not used them at first. He considered Adm Tovey fully reliable.
It is enough to be able to read what he wrote, ... assuming you know it exist, ... and you knew it since a lot of time but never showed or clearly mentioned it to me here in or privately.
Kennedy was the one that unfairly tried to correlate Adm Tovey reliability with this Court Martial story, and he was the one that instead of spending time with LtCdr Pitcairn-Jones and try to learn something more about this battle events, wrote that PoW retreated at 06:13, so 21 minutes after the open fire and 13 minutes after fighting on alone against the Bismarck.
Anyway, now thanking Stephen Roskill all is clear about this Court Martial attempt events and how it was defetaed by Adm Tovey, as well as who knew about it and possibly asked about it and prodded Adm Pound to proceed for it at first, and accepted soon after to forget about it and reward those Officers after Adm Tovey very firmly defence.
Having this book and those informations from an historian of Stephen Roskill level, everything was going to be defined probably some years ago, … but still, … the attitude did not allow this to be and we had to wait until today.
I hope that now that all is clearly defined about this " Denmark Strait Saga " like Sir Henry Leach called it, ... about this " regrettable aftermath " as Stephen Roskill defined it, ... starting from May 28th 1941 until September 25th, 1941, ... we will be back on a positive attitude only.
Bye Antonio
In order to honor a soldier, we have to tell the truth about what happened over there. The whole, hard, cold truth. And until we do that, we dishonor her and every soldier who died, who gave their life for their country. ( Courage Under Fire )
