Hello everybody,
the one subject to personal offenses and trolling attitude is me, not you and surely not Wadinga or Dunmunro, just to put it in clear words.
This is understandable, because once cornered and with no more arguments to counter what is so evident and officially written in front of everybody, provided and blessed by the Royal Navy official historian, the only strategy a stubborn denier can use is the trolling one.
This is exactly what is going one here in now due to the thread subject, not easy to manage and digest bu those trolls, being now very evidently on the loosers side.
You are mixing apple's with banana's. We discussed that point years ago already, but apparently on reading previous post's you are missing the point and now you like to mix the 06:14 with a 06:13 statement and correlate it with Capt Leach order to disengage he himself stated occurring soon after 06:02 and 30 seconds on his report and before even more clearly on his previous radio message sent on May 27th, 1941.
As I told you it is Ltnt Cdr Pitcairn-Jones that cleared the point once for good in 1948 on the records, stating that the Tovey 06:13 in wrong and should have been written 06:03 also according to the RN Admiralty, ... unfortunately they realized it only on 1948.
I have been not surprised reading Stephen Roskill file in my hands since more than a week now.
Somebody else will be and will start developing a strategy to try to minimize what is available in there, just like happened with the Adm 205/10 recently.
But I have no problems anymore about it now, all I have is more than enough to write the truth in clear form and with clear references very soon.
The point here is to compare Capt Leach report stating 06:02 with Adm Tovey dispatches stating 06:13 being the time of release for the PoW disengagement order and not her fully completed action breakdown evaluated by somebody else long after even the enemy fire was ceased since 5 minutes at 06:09.
You will agree that to overturn the ship Captain report entry Tovey should have had a much more precise report and asked Leach to change his own report declaration officially. He preferred to use a Wake-Walker generic statement based on a generic completed breakdown time, a smart choiche by Tovey, but unfortunately historically absolutely false.
The Y turret jamming occurrence is even more evident being a smart event sequence change in order to provide PoW disengagement stronger reasons, in addittion to more battle time having added 10 more minutes ( from 06:03 to 06:13 ) and that was another Adm Tovey intentional alteration we can all read on his dispatches.
This way a very debetable PoW disengagement occurrence had a more solid reasons to be at least.
The evidence are clear and irrefutable into the Official documents.
The Hood board of inquiry ( 1st vs 2nd ) is relevant because you must remember this thread subject and the fact that the trial for court martial Adm Tovey declared in writing into the letter to Stephen Roskill you have read in Cambridge, is mainly addressing the charges to Wake-Walker, rather than to Leach that we realized was under investigation too and needed to provide the PoW disengagement explanation.
Reading both Tovey dispatches points 22 and 23 and the Admiralty ( Barnes ) reply this is clearly confirmed and we will soon see more confirmation of those been the matters in discussion.
This is why we need to provide and explain now the potential charges related to Wake-Walker and see how Adm Tovey with his dispatches ( points 17 and 19 ) cleaned both Leach potential charges as well as Wake-Walker ones , ... and also Capt Ellis potential ones in case an inquiry later was going to be called anyway ( using points 22 and 23 ).
This is the reason why AdmTovey dispatches was full of intentional alterations and smartly incorrect written statements.
This is the reason why it was the only document the Admiralty and the politicians wanted to refer to, ... and as we will see soon, ... knowing how incorrect it was, ... someone even did not want to attach it to a minute, .. it was enough the Admiralty positive assesment of it being accepted by the Admiralty board ( Barnes ) to close the matter for the politicians and the War Cabinet / Prime Minister.
NOTE :
Lets see now if you are better than RearAdm Wake -Walker on an easy mathematical calculation.
You wrote that PoW according to Wake-Walker disengaged at 06:13, that si what you like to beleive based on his own declaration used by Adm Tovey too.
Well read carefully what Wake-Walker stated on the same document
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I had seen her forced out of action after 10 minutes' engagement, at the end of which her salvoes were falling short and with a very large spread indeed.
PoW started engaging the enemy at 05:53 and plus 10 minutes = 06:03, ... and not 06:13.
How good are you in mathematic ?
Bye Antonio
In order to honor a soldier, we have to tell the truth about what happened over there. The whole, hard, cold truth. And until we do that, we dishonor her and every soldier who died, who gave their life for their country. ( Courage Under Fire )
,like the above one, just to divert attention from the main topic! Follow this link and look at the second post of this VERY long thread and you will realize who used the term "dementia" first..... 
Also, you will find that in the letters between Roskill and Kennedy, even the latter was speaking about the CM threat as a real fact.
), but technically much more favorable to Leach than the reality (e.g. Y turret hit and out of action during a period of the engagement, main director out of action.....). Only his conclusion is ALREADY very critical: "The PoW had then broken off action. Whether or not she had been right in doing so could not be judged on the information so far available"
