Alberto Virtuani wrote:@Dunmunro:
while this possibility cannot be 100% discarded, we know that PoW was following Hood at an 800 meters distance and I find it extremely unlikely that a Bismarck salvo could be so badly dispersed (especially at a not extreme range of 16000/17000 meters as at 5:59, time of PoW salvo 12) to hit PoW when she was consistently straddling the Hood.....
No witness referred of any Bismarck salvo falling close to PoW before Hood explosion and Bismarck salvos were evaluated as quite well grouped.
Alberto Virtuani wrote:@Dunmunro:
I don't think we can move Hood explosion from 6:00:10 (we have debated at long the matter already and almost all evidences point at this timing). Also, photo 69724 shows Hood explosion (few seconds after it started, as the vertical pillar of flames is well visible) and the distance from PoW is quite bigger than at 6:00:50 (PG film with PoW salvo 16). In any case it is a considerable distance to imagine a shell from BS to hit by chance PoW....
Of course, we cannot exclude 100% the fact that a shell aimed at Hood hit PoW but we have to accept 1) an awful spread of a Bismarck salvo AND 2) the change of trajectory of the UW shell by 35°, the difference between 10° from beam (UW) and 45° from beam (CP), a bit too much in my poor opinion (see the link that Thorsten has kindly posted above, where the "horizontal" deviation is always very limited, even for a smaller caliber).
The large distance between the ships, makes this hypothesis very unlikely, while inserting the UW salvo before the CP one after Hood explosion, as you propose, would allow the UW hit to explain the hit aft, but would NOT match Capt.Leach account who said he decided to break off the engagement after the CP hit, not before and following a "heavy hit aft".
Bismarck was firing one semi-salvo each 30 seconds (as well as PoW was doing) and there is no time for any other salvo as the ship undoubtedly started the turn away at 6:01:30, thus the order given at around 6:01:00.
IMO, the heavy hit aft was just the ricocheting of the 8" PG shell over the roof of the chart house behind the CP.
Regarding salvo 12, there is also Jasper who, in his gunnery report, said he saw at around 5:59 (when he switched fire to PoW) two 6" BS shells hitting the side of PoW, but this is again not supported by the PoW damage report. The near misses from PG or secondary BS guns may have shaked the PoW TS.....
"Prince of Wales" starboard 5.25" battery was now in action. Course had to be altered to starboard to avoid remains of "Hood"; meanwhile "Bismarck" had shifted main and secondary armament fire quickly and accurately onto "Prince of Wales". A heavy hit was felt almost immediately. And at 0602 compass platform was hit and majority of personnel killed. Navigating Officer was wounded; Commanding Officer unhurt.
The same salvo severed all fire control leads to the port forward H.A. Director and put the starboard forward H.A. Director out of action temporarily jamming it in training. The control officer of the latter ordered all turrets to go into "After Control". This was carried out, but, about the same time a 15" shell burst on the boat deck and seriously upset the starboard after H.A. Director. The crew of this director had already been considerably blasted by "Y" Turret firing on a forward bearing. The 15" shell burst threw the control officer off his feet and broke his telephone lead. By the time he was again through to the H.A.C.P. The target was lost behind smoke astern.
It was considered expedient to break off the action and consolidate the position, and the ship, after being manoeuvred round the remains of "Hood", turned away behind a smoke screen. "Y" Turret fired in local during the turn as smoke blanked the after director.
During the first action after firing salvo 12, a heavy hit was felt on the starboard side and the director setting mechanical pointer was seen to be oscillating violently. At the same time a fuze was noticed to blow at the panel in the 14-in. T.S. The director setting control trigger was used to move off the mechanical pointer. On release, the pointer settled in line with the indicator pointer and no further trouble was experienced.
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