The Norfolk and Suffolk tracks at Denmark Strait
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:58 am
Hello everybody,
as requested by Wadinga, I moved here on a dedicated thread this argument still belonging to " The Denmark Strait Saga " and clearly demonstrating one piece of it.
@ Wadinga & Dunmunro,
It appears that you, like many others do agree we need to look for the truth.
Lets work on something productive, like the battlefield and the map just using, ... as you and Wadinga correctly suggested me years ago, ... the bearings and not the distances, ... due to the sure minor error margin possibilities I fully agree with you.
Here we were and hope still are all in agreement.
I have agreed with Herr Nillson about this productive initiative to move forward as a team, I am sure you read about
Do you mind to confirm from your side the bearings showed in this map being correctly traced connecting the 2 tracks of Norfolk and Suffolk as originally traced by Pinchin on The Plot, and now just related to the BC1 and German ships correct tracks on my map here below.
The question is : Are they correctly traced according to you ? If not which one and why ?
To make your geometrical bearings verification easier, even if you can of course control them all, I ask you and Wadinga and everybody who wants to cooperate here, a confirmation of just few ( 7 ) of them :
1) 335° between Norfolk and Suffolk at 06:20 ( Ref. The Plot and WW Off. report )
2) 185° between Suffolk and PoW at 05:53 open fire ( Ref. Suffolk Off. report )
3) 276° between Norfolk and enemy at 05:41 ( Ref. Norfolk war diary )
4) 334° between PoW and enemy ( Ref. PoW int. message to Admiralty )
5) 207° between Suffolk and Bismarck at 06:00 ( Ref. Suffolk Off. report )
6) 230° between Norfolk and Hood at 06:00 ( Ref. WW Off. report ) - NOTE: we have a conflict here with 220° at 05:50 ( to be defined jointly after )
7) 28° between Prinz Eugen and Suffolk at 05:50 ( Ref. PG Off. battle map )
I repeat myself, the Norfolk to Hood conflict 220° at 05:50 versus 230° at 06:00 will be resolved jointly later.
You can verify also the other bearings on the map, but I do not need you to agree about them, ... if you want you can do it, ... but it is not required at this stage of the verification.
Again, ... 7 easy bearings verification, ... and a response, ... that is all we need from you, Wadinga and everybody else that wants to really cooperate on finding the truth about this battle.
1) yes or no
2) yes or no
3) yes or no
4) yes or no
5) yes or no
6) yes or no
7) yes or no
You can copy and paste the above bearings list and fill it according to you.
Thanks for your fairness and cooperation in advance, ... and bye Antonio
as requested by Wadinga, I moved here on a dedicated thread this argument still belonging to " The Denmark Strait Saga " and clearly demonstrating one piece of it.
@ Wadinga & Dunmunro,
It appears that you, like many others do agree we need to look for the truth.
Lets work on something productive, like the battlefield and the map just using, ... as you and Wadinga correctly suggested me years ago, ... the bearings and not the distances, ... due to the sure minor error margin possibilities I fully agree with you.
Here we were and hope still are all in agreement.
I have agreed with Herr Nillson about this productive initiative to move forward as a team, I am sure you read about
Do you mind to confirm from your side the bearings showed in this map being correctly traced connecting the 2 tracks of Norfolk and Suffolk as originally traced by Pinchin on The Plot, and now just related to the BC1 and German ships correct tracks on my map here below.
The question is : Are they correctly traced according to you ? If not which one and why ?
To make your geometrical bearings verification easier, even if you can of course control them all, I ask you and Wadinga and everybody who wants to cooperate here, a confirmation of just few ( 7 ) of them :
1) 335° between Norfolk and Suffolk at 06:20 ( Ref. The Plot and WW Off. report )
2) 185° between Suffolk and PoW at 05:53 open fire ( Ref. Suffolk Off. report )
3) 276° between Norfolk and enemy at 05:41 ( Ref. Norfolk war diary )
4) 334° between PoW and enemy ( Ref. PoW int. message to Admiralty )
5) 207° between Suffolk and Bismarck at 06:00 ( Ref. Suffolk Off. report )
6) 230° between Norfolk and Hood at 06:00 ( Ref. WW Off. report ) - NOTE: we have a conflict here with 220° at 05:50 ( to be defined jointly after )
7) 28° between Prinz Eugen and Suffolk at 05:50 ( Ref. PG Off. battle map )
I repeat myself, the Norfolk to Hood conflict 220° at 05:50 versus 230° at 06:00 will be resolved jointly later.
You can verify also the other bearings on the map, but I do not need you to agree about them, ... if you want you can do it, ... but it is not required at this stage of the verification.
Again, ... 7 easy bearings verification, ... and a response, ... that is all we need from you, Wadinga and everybody else that wants to really cooperate on finding the truth about this battle.
1) yes or no
2) yes or no
3) yes or no
4) yes or no
5) yes or no
6) yes or no
7) yes or no
You can copy and paste the above bearings list and fill it according to you.
Thanks for your fairness and cooperation in advance, ... and bye Antonio