Cag wrote: " I'm not sure about your point as regards the turn..."
Antonio Bonomi wrote:At 05:41 my position, HMS Norfolk, his 63° 39' N and 31° 10' W ( point A ), while in reality he was 10 sea miles to SW on bearing 245° from the communicated position ( Point C )
At 06:29 my position, still Norfolk of course, is 63° 22' N and 31° 46' W ( point B ) and again he was 10 sea miles to SW on bearing 245° from that communicated position ( point D ).
So the error was consistent with the one before and confirms my re-construction above being correct, he sailed exactly the track I have traced in BLUE not so different from the Pinchin original track.
Antonio Bonomi wrote:
Tod plotted Norfolk track passing close to Hood sinking place as communicated on radio messages too, ... but in reality they were making a considerable error on position both them and Hood, ... so it is NOT reliable at all, ... in fact Pinchin moved away from Norfolk on " The Plot " the Hood sinking place as you can verify easily.
Wadinga wrote (my bold): "With Bismarck in sight to starboard (at 13 miles)........Norfolk closes to as little as 12 miles on the enemy....Pinchin seems to have done a good job"
you wrote: "....nothing to starboard" or "let her head drop away to port....."
Do you have any example of a prolonged turn rate of 1.5° per minute executed by any warship during a battle ?
Antonio Bonomi wrote:@ Herr Nillson,
you are right with your understanding, ... Norfolk 06:29 position is right after the correction factor, ... what is wrong were the 2 radio communication positions of Hood from Norfolk at 06:15 and 06:37, ... but I do not know how it happened.
Pinchin correctly moved it away on " The Plot ".
They evaluated being closer to it, ... in reality they were and sailed more distant from it, ... and in fact there is no report from the 3 Hood survivors of having seen the Norfolk sailing so close to them after 20/25 minutes of being in the water.
In fact as I told you it is impossible for them to have sailed there so close to Hood with a 215° true course ( Tod ) or even a 220° followed by a 200° true ( Pinchin ), ... while Hood was at 230° true bearing from them at 06:00 according to Wake-Walker report.
I could provide you a detailed geographical graphic explanation of all I am saying, ... but that will cost me the disclosure of the Hood real geographical sinking position place, and respectful of what David Mearns asked, Frank Allen and Paul Bevand ( Hood webiste ) suggested too, ... I am not going to write it or show it in clear format on this moment.
"The differences between Pinchin Norfolk track on " The Plot " and Tod's track on the Norfolk strategical map are not that much, in fact you can verify that they are having common reference points one on top of the other at 05:41, at 06:00 and at 06:30, ... so the 2 tracks are basically showing a general similar trend as far as the track was going overall."
congratulations for your gallant fight and honorable surrender
Now lets move on the Suffolk track analysis
W-W gave up any leadership initiative during these 14 vital minutes, just "letting his ship drop" to port.
this is just not realistic because the rudder should have been kept precisely to e.g. 0.5° to port for such a long time.
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